Putting that responsibility on a citizen rather than cops is beyond stupid. The perks of being a cop is that is comes with zero responsibility.
The sad truth is that the cops have NOTHING here. No victim. Just cops creating problems and invading private property and wondering why people are upset.
I'm still withholding judgement until we see the body cam footage, but the cops have probable cause to check on Hayes girlfriend/wife since there was a domestic violence complaint. Without such, many domestic violence complaints would be nullified by the abuser simply not allowing authorities to make contact with the victim. If Hayes isn't allowing them to do so, he is obstructing the investigation.
We don't know the context of the call and, to be precise, it was a domestic disturbance. That could be a call from neighbors for screaming.
A fella in the Phoenix metro got shot for a domestic disturbance call because he was playing a video game too loud and he answered the door with a handgun (pointing down) without knowing it was the police. Another fella got shot by the Mesa police because he had an air rifle in his hotel because it was his job to shoot birds trapped in stores. They sent an entire swat team and murdered him because he was drunk and terrified. Police need better training. Poorly trained militarized police with rules of engagement that allow them to shoot anyone when they feel threatened are not your friends.
you mean a perfrect world where police are properly paid and trained to extend maximum constraint to ALL citizens?
Yes and in those instance, law enforcement has the duty to check on the welfare of all parties involved. Hayes cannot stop the cops from interviewing or seeing his girlfriend/wife in that instance. If domestic abusers could stop cops from checking on the welfare of their victims by denying access and also deny separate interviews with the victim, it'll be extremely difficult for cops to apprehend domestic abusers. Again, I'm not saying Hayes is a domestic abuser or he did anything wrong here (since we don't know exactly what happened before the takedown). But IF he stopped the Police from checking/talking to his girlfriend, he is guilty of obstruction and can be arrested. In domestic violence incidents, every criminal attorney will advise their client (if innocent) to follow the officers directions and stay compose due to the fact that in such cases, cops are taught to err on the side of caution due to worries about of the victim's health and safety.
Then you can have all of your enemies Constitutional rights suspended every time they decide to call the cops on you. Fun stuff.
No fun for me I guess since I don't have any enemies. As for suspension of constitutional rights... I don't think police checking on the welfare of every party in cases of domestic disturbance/violence is asking that much. The best way to handle such incidents IF you don't want them to enter your home is to have the cops interview your spouse/child/girlfriend outside.
I suspect there were drugs in the house. Cocaine is the new normal and really should be decriminalized, but the same people making the laws against it are the ones making dark money selling it at inflated prices. We all know that there are no good guys anymore. Just a bunch of criminals with briefcases and laws written for them. Sadly, the good cops are getting caught in between all of this. Reminds me of Vietnam and when the US lost the moral high ground by not being transparent.
Yes proper training would be great but we aren’t remotely close to that. Police get probably 10% of the training they should get. I don’t know if it’s even that much lol, but the type of training I’d want would create more humility and punish hot heads. They get paid pretty decently from what I’ve seen. It would also be great if communities cooperated with police more and it wasn’t stigmatized but that’s another topic. Anyhow I’ll be curious to see the whole video and it’s lame as hell for the LAPD to be pushing the NBA to punish Hayes.
Or police do their jobs and it doesn’t happen again, the responsibility should be on the government employee to know how to do their job, not a random citizen
They were doing their job before he resisted and correctly tased him when he resisted. I would like to know how you think they should've been doing their jobs. Are you saying that if he hadn't resisted he would have gotten tased anyway? Because if that's the case I disagree.
No matter what happened, it's just stupid to escalate situations with cops - even if they are treating you unfairly. Rational thinking is acting as submissive and respectful as possible towards them. You only stand to make things worse by showing attitude and trying to out macho a cop.
