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2021 Training Camp Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Fantasma Negro, Jul 28, 2021.

  1. conquistador#11

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    Every time someone posts an update on Mills' progress they tweet out an interception. Just 3 ints alone today.
    I wonder how every other rookie is doing around camp. Heard our guy Lance being compared to Mahomes 2.0 over in San Fran training camp. =(
     
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    What’s being said doesn’t sound good, it also feels like they’re trying to emphasize the negative and not say anything positive.
     
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    The Texans' history of incompetent CBs is not long, but definitely glorious (in a bad way). Lots of Burnt Toast and we haven't talked about the Petey's in a while.
     
  4. J.R.

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    Texans camp stock report: Davis Mills disappoints, but Nico Collins impresses
    https://theathletic.com/2754485/202...mills-disappoints-but-nico-collins-impresses/

    Texans training camp is more than a week old, and the team began practicing in pads Tuesday. With the season opener against the Jaguars still more than a month away, here’s a look at who’s stood out and who’s disappointed:

    Stock up

    WR Nico Collins

    The Texans made an expensive trade up into the third round to select Collins, and so far the aggressive move appears to have netted them a big-bodied receiver who will make an impact as a rookie. After opting out of his senior season at Michigan, Collins has consistently made catches both on the sideline and over the middle during Texans camp.

    “As you watch the video, there’s still things he’s not doing that we need to do better, but he’s playing bigger, and you see him every day — he’ll end up making a play here or there,” coach David Culley said. “… He’s got to make those plays all the time, and that’s not happening right now, but he is getting better.”

    At 6-foot-4, Collins is Houston’s tallest wideout, possessing the sort of build the receiving corps lacked last year as the team emphasized speed above all, to the detriment of its red-zone efficiency. Besides No. 1 option Brandin Cooks, the Texans are thin on the outside, creating an opportunity for Collins to play a lot right away. He and free-agent acquisition Chris Conley, who’s also had a solid camp, have both received plenty of reps with presumed starting quarterback Tyrod Taylor.

    OT Charlie Heck

    Veteran Marcus Cannon might not be the only player pushing Tytus Howard inside. Heck, who only plays offensive tackle, has held up well in his fair share of reps with presumed starters on the line, such as left tackle Laremy Tunsil. The 2020 fourth-round pick out of North Carolina is noticeably bulkier than he was as a rookie when he appeared in three games and made one start, in Week 17 against the Titans.

    “He’s gotten stronger,” Culley said of Heck. “Charlie knew what he needed to do. He’s basically done everything that you want done to improve from Year 1 to Year 2, and we’re starting to see that.”

    Heck becoming a serviceable starter in just his second pro season would be a developmental win for the Texans. But it’d also make the trade for Cannon a head-scratcher, considering Howard, a 2019 first-round pick, has also been a solid right tackle when healthy. Cannon, who began camp on the physically unable to perform list, has yet to practice. The longtime Patriot is set to count for nearly $7 million against the Texans’ cap, but Houston would not incur any dead money charge if it cut him.

    DL Roy Lopez

    The Texans’ last pick in the 2021 draft has been one of their most impressive rookies since pads came on. Lopez has won most of his one-on-ones in recent days, and Thursday he stuffed a run on one play, then pressured rookie QB Davis Mills out of the pocket on the next.

    “He’s a nose guard with a little bit of three-technique athletic ability because he has a little bit of wiggle to him also — strong, compact,” defensive coordinator Lovie Smith said of Lopez. “He’s done some good things.”

    The strong showing from Lopez, a sixth-round pick out of Arizona, could make nose tackle Brandon Dunn more expendable.

    Despite never playing more than 41 percent of defensive snaps in four full seasons with the Texans, Dunn carries the sixth-highest cap hit ($4.1 million) on the defense. There are two years remaining on the three-year, $12 million deal Dunn received during Bill O’Brien’s tenure as general manager, but the contract does not include any more guaranteed salary, making cutting Dunn feasible.

    WR Keke Coutee

    Aaron Rodgers’ desire for the Packers to trade for former Texans slot receiver Randall Cobb created an opportunity for Coutee, and he’s taken advantage. Though the Texans added another slot receiver via trade (Anthony Miller), Coutee continues to be one of Taylor’s favorite targets. Maybe things change once Miller, whom the Texans acquired from the Bears just before camp, becomes more comfortable within the offense. But so far, Coutee has received as many snaps with Taylor as Miller has, if not more. Both are in the final year of their respective rookie contracts.

    Stock down

    QB Davis Mills

    Rookie quarterbacks all have their ugly plays in camp, especially when they’re mid-round picks, but Mills’ camp has so far included a lot more bad plays than impressive ones. He often looks slow to process during more competitive periods of practice, and he’s turned the ball over at some point on most days. During situational work Thursday, Mills took a sack to begin the drive, and he ended it with an interception on a first down.

    Luckily for Mills, the Texans aren’t expecting him to start anytime soon. He has plenty of time to continue adjusting to the speed of the NFL.

    “As elementary as it sounds, (the key is) not making the same mistake twice,” offensive coordinator Tim Kelly said of coaching rookie quarterbacks. “For us as coaches, when we can get that from our players, it shows that they’re coachable. It shows that they have a good grasp and a good understanding of what we’re asking them to do. At that position in particular, you don’t see the panic mistakes anymore. Things are starting to slow down, and he’s really starting to feel comfortable when he’s back there, particularly when he’s in the pocket.”

    CB John Reid

    At this time a year ago, Texans coaches praised Reid as the most impressive rookie of camp, yet he played just 13 percent of defensive snaps. The slot corner out of Penn State hasn’t looked ready for a much larger role this year either, as he’s yet to make a splash play.

    Coming into camp, a Year 2 jump from Reid seemed like an important variable in determining whether the Texans would be painfully thin at corner once again. For now, the answer appears to be yes, even if the top of the depth chart improved with the additions of Desmond King and Terrance Mitchell.

    WR Isaiah Coulter

    The 2020 fifth-round pick out of Rhode Island was the last receiver not to make the cut on my initial 53-man roster projection, and his camp performance has yet to make me regret that decision. Coulter has struggled to separate, and his thin frame doesn’t help him win consistently in contested catch situations.

    OL Tytus Howard

    Kelly said Howard practicing at left guard and both tackle spots allows the Texans to “get the five best players on the field and not necessarily just pigeonhole someone into one specific position.” This can be a positive development for the Texans and a negative one for Howard. Though he said he’s happy to play anywhere, guards make less than tackles. And it’s usually not great when the developmental plan for a player is inconsistent. The Texans trained Howard at left guard and right tackle during his rookie training camp, then decided after one start inside that he would be a full-time right tackle. Now the new regime is reverting to the old plan.

    “By me being at tackle and coming in to play some guard, I feel like my feet are a little bit faster,” Howard said. “When I’m playing guard, I’m able to use my athleticism a little more inside against guys who usually don’t go against guys with as good a feet as I (have), so I think I like playing all the positions. Whichever one my team sees me as, I’m going to go in day in and day out and play the best I can.”
     
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    NOTHING HAS CHANGED BRIAN.

     
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    You want me to do what now?
     
  9. cmoak1982

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    Wouldn’t it be weird if he wanted to stay lol.
    Not gonna lie and say I don’t want a top 5 QB. Would be hard to forget this whole situation though.
     
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    What does this mean (or what is it referencing)? I don’t follow the Texans closely but saw this on the sports feed and was curious.
     
  13. Hank McDowell

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    Deshaun Watson is a ****ing disgrace.
     
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  14. Rockets34Legend

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    Ugh, just get this season started so I can just see him rot on the bench while I watch Taylor take over this offense.
     
  15. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Watson will play if he’s still here week one. He’s getting the snaps already
     
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  16. evilhomer

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    Since John McClain keeps saying that Watson will never play another down for the Texans I guess I have to draft him high in fantasy this year since he will be starting for them week one...
     
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    All for show to get his value up for trade purposes.
     
  18. Fantasma Negro

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    I hope not. I don't ever want to see this dude play another down for this city. I'm hoping McClain is actually right for once.
     
  20. Mr.Scarface

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    Deshaun will have to come to a decision: Do I want to sit an ENTIRE season and watch or play QB for the Texans. I'm sure the Texans have told him the trade scenarios are just not happening at the moment.

    It is not a money issue. He got paid. It is a competitor issue now.
     

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