I was hanging out with my ER doc friend last night and if I heard him right he said that 60-70% of the nurses are out currently with Delta infections and they were vaccinated. He said he did a recent antibody test and his were still strong but he was ready to take a booster shot whenever.
That's also the earliest vaccinated group of people, data is pointing at the efficacy (against infection) declining sharply about 4+ months after vacination Medical workers also amongst the first vaccinated as well obviously
Thank you -- hadn't thought about it from that perspective. I'm just past four months myself. Looks like I picked a bad year to stop sniffing glue.
Seventy percent of U.S. adults have had at least one shot of a Covid vaccine, according to data published Monday by the CDC, about a month behind President Joe Biden’s Fourth of July goal. Covid-19: Pfizer vaccine’s efficacy declined from 96% to 84% four months after second dose, company reports Booster rolling out in England by Sept.
Here is the article on the Pfizer vaccine efficacy decline from 96% to 84%. Covid-19: Pfizer vaccine’s efficacy declined from 96% to 84% four months after second dose, company reports | The BMJ The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine’s efficacy against SARS-CoV-2 peaked at 96.2% at seven days to two months after the second dose and then declined to 83.7% at four months, a preprint from Pfizer has reported.1 The preprint, which contains the latest data from the original clinical trial, found an average decline in vaccine efficacy of 6% every two months.
Lots of good info from the Texas Medical Center today: https://www.tmc.edu/?mc_cid=bde661d289&mc_eid=d57faac004
Is the decline due to the vaccine waning or is the decline due to Delta being more contagious, or is it just more data? Also...84% is still really good. Other note: CDC had a paper that showed J&J efficacy INCREASED over time, from 62% to 77%. In fact, J&J vaccines seem to show continued increases over time.
That seems crazy, but it may be like other situations where one person comes down sick, so they test everybody and they find that they are infected asymptomatically. So the vaccine is doing its job, but since they are positive and work in a hospital, they have to stay home.
He didn’t say that they were doing badly. I think it was more along the lines of like when a team comes down with a covid outbreak but no one is particularly sick because they are vaccinated.
Initially I thought maybe Delta but the study was around Jan through April with 75% of the cases from the US and the rest around the world... as usual, preliminary and there is somewhat a conflict of interest (Pfizer study showing need for Pfizer booster)... I saw that about J&J but haven't had the time to read it yet.
I'm in Toronto now. The vaccination rate here in Canada is around 80% of all eligible people (12 and up) have at least one shot which translates to around 70% of the total population having at least one shot. And on top of that, in Ontario there is still a mask mandate, social distancing requirements, capacity restrictions, etc.. Ontario as a whole averages less than 200 cases a day and on the whole people are far more serious about Covid here than anywhere in the US. Schools and daycare in particular have much stricter protocols for Covid than any state in the US. We were toying around with moving for a while but we had the opportunity and just went ahead and did it.
Nice. I don't think I could do Toronto, but maybe Vancouver. But too late for that now, lol. I work remote so have briefly thought about just doing a year "abroad" and leasing in some other US state that isn't so moronic when it comes to the pandemic.
UK data. 4.4% of kids (5-17) who tested positive for covid has long covid (symptoms > 27 days). 1% for 5-11. 3.4% for 12-17. Cover period is March 2020 through Feb 2021, so before the newer variants. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(21)00198-X/fulltext
How?!? Through your pediatrician? Or does CVS/Walgreens/etc not verify birthdates for minors? Our 11.5 yo is also adult-sized and we are dying to get him vaccinated.
