He said his agent handles all that stuff, meaning it wasn't his decision. Suggs is going to be a star imo, I do agree with @OkayAyeReloaded that he is likely the 2nd option on a true contender, but he would be the closer taking big shot after big shot.
Not sure why it matters if it was his decision or not. You can't be simultaneously like "**** yall that passed on me!!" AND "but im not going to workout for y'all anyway" unless you want to sound like an idiot... which, he now does
Yes Suggs most likely won’t be the best player on a championship team. The reason Cade and Green are ranked above him is that their prototypes, big wing creator and high scoring guard, fits as the best player on a championship team more. The problem with that line of thinking is, in reality they are very unlikely to become the best players on a championship team either. You are not drafting prototypes, you are drafting human beings. Suggs is likely to be better as players than both, and none of the three are likely to be the best player on a championship team, that’s the dirty secret no one is willing to admit. Its rare to get a best player on championship team caliber player in any draft, and I just don’t see it in Cade or Green, so rewarding or docking for prototype is pointless.
LOL. "Green and Cade have all the attributes of being the best player on a championship team, but I just don't see it, which means they won't be."
Not every big wing creator and high scoring guard become the best player on a championship squad, you do realize. They have none of the actual attributes. Cade can’t get past a chair. Green can’t guard a chair.
It's called more unfavorable odds, nothing dirty. If the so called scouts honed their craft, there wouldn't be so many busts throughout draft history. Do not buy everything they sell. I am also against making the draft a spectacle, I would make precisely less of it each year. You're picking players, it's not entertainment. (The Carnival is coming to town every year.)
That's a bit harsh to equate him to an idiot, if his agent was told the Rockets are only considering Green and Cunningham should he then demand a workout on his own dime? Sounds a bit thirsty, it makes more sense to take the rejection in stride with a chip on his shoulder IMO
Dribble penetration, ability to break down a defense instead of just taking tough jump shots for Cade. Defense, high level distribution for Green. But above all else, production. Neither demonstrated dominant production.
I think his frame is too thin to ever be a plus defender. Also just doesn’t have high level playmaking ability. Zach Lavine is never going to be the best player on a championship team, but that would be a great outcome for Green, for trade value.
"it will be to their detriment" LOLLLL What a cornball. I thought Ayayi was just as good on that Gonzaga squad if not better than Suggs. Is he going to put the league on notice next? How funny.
Mobley or Suggs if winning basketball games is the goal. Although I did just notice that Green has 1.4m Instagram followers before he has even stepped foot in the NBA, that has to be attractive for a franchise wanting to get back to relevancy(I would argue winning would help more).
There's no "secret" formula to being a star. There is no designated set of attributes. Luka's game is radically different Curry's and both are stars. And what does "high level distribution" and "dominant production" even mean? Those are vague terms used by people who don't really have statistical or empirical data to back up their arguments.
If we package the #23 and #24 picks, we can move up and draft The Chair, yes. cue George Strait baritone: Well, excuse me, but I think you've got my chair No, that one's not taken; I don't mind if you sit here I'll be glad to share Yeah, it's usually packed here on Friday nights....(etc, etc) .....Oh, I like you too, and to tell you the truth That wasn't my chair after all
We're only going off rumor... but the rumor is the Rockets asked to work him out and they denied. Sure, it might have been "they currently prefer xyz"... but that's where he's rated... BY EVERYONE. If you want to prove you shouldn't be "passed over" then you go in for the workout and prove them wrong. idgaf that he denied the workout... just don't then follow it up with some "you passed on me, you're going to rue the day!!!" crap. Its idiotic.
Does this mean you think Mobley or Suggs will come in next year and help this franchise get back to at least .500 ball? Because anything less would be more in line with what you should expect out of any Top 5 draftee that wasn't deemed as a generational/transcendent talent. All I'm saying is you can't believe Mobley or Suggs will have any more of a dramatic impact to this franchise in the immediate future than Green. Bigs usually take 2-3 years to develop.
