So the pro i've been hearing is Green should be an immediate impact... at least offensively? What's the measure of success next season? 15 ppg (over / under)? LaMelo for example was 15.7 ppg at 50.4 % efg this past season.
If our team is anything like it was this year (one of the worst in the league) it's got to be over If it's 14 on great efficiency with 4+ assists, I won't panic But if he's dropping 12 ppg on 47% efg with 1.7 assists and 2.5 turnovers I'm gonna riot Know what I'm sayin?
Anthony Edwards would be the better comp. Both are highly touted prospect due to their athleticism and scoring abilities. Ant is the more explosive athlete while Green is more skilled/polished. Edwards finished the season avg 19 ppg on 52% TS. Good volume on poor efficiency, but more importantly his improvement as the season progressed was obvious and substantial. Edwards #'s were terrible the first months. Green is not only a higher rated prospect than Edwards but also considered much more advanced, so he should avg somewhere in the neighborhood of 19 points on 55% TS in his first year. Ideally Green will improve as the season progress as he did in the g-league.
Can Green do all that and play as good or better on defense? Not to mention stay injury free? Ant is THICC but still got hurt.
My prediction for Green's stat line his rookie year would be as follows: 18.5 PPG, 3.0 RPG, 3.5 APG, 1.5 SPG. For what it's worth, which is nothing at all, I was very close and predicting Yao's rookie stats. Depending on his usage, I could see him eclipsing the points per game. Say he averages 38 minutes per game, I could see him scoring about 21 points per game.
He would be the 2nd pick but I just do not see coaching staff giving out minutes by draft sequence. He still got 2 other rookies and other young players to distribute minutes to on a below average team. Unless he is a plus defender right away.
this looks like one of the minnesota uniforms...and i dont think green will be on level of d-lo and ant edwards.. and look at them boys going nowhere in years despite being team loaded with the stars, potential and picks...just like pelicants... stars are overrated as we see on olympics now.. a star is not better player than an average nba guy i am taking alperen sengun, a guy that can play team basketball, before any of these hypos with haircuts and flashy moves
Windhorst: Woj reported that Detroit is not 100% settled on Cade Cunningham. That set off a whole bunch of BS detectors for me. … Are you saying they’re looking at Tilman Fertitta and Rafael Stone and going “Oh, let’s see how you guys handle this position. Let’s rattle the cage a little bit.” Spears, you’ve seen Green a hell of lot more than I have. Could you take Green ahead of Cade? Spears: Yes. I’ve been watching this kid since he was 17. He has Kobe Bryant/Tracy McGrady athleticism. He has show-stopping athleticism. He has bigger show-stopping ability than anybody in this draft. Jumper is good enough. Work in progress, will get better. Where we lose sight or get so enamored with college basketball, if you were to ask Jalen from a popularity standpoint, would it have been different if he went to college? He would probably say yeah. “People would have seen me more. I would have been more popular.” Jalen was an 18 year old playing against grown men. From the beginning of the G League bubble til the end, he improved. For him to have 30 in his last game, he constantly got better every week against NBA caliber players. Not college players. NBA caliber players. In the midst of this year, he got to learn more about the NBA style of play, NBA life. Basically when he gets to a team, there’s nothing you need to get him adjusted to. He’s basically lived that life. That’s neither here nor there but hear he’s had sensational workouts. From what I know about Troy Weaver, he’s not scared to draft who is best, not who he thinks is popular. When he drafted Westbrook, I don’t think Russ was the popular choice. That’s not to say Cade isn’t amazing. There’s 5 or 6 really good players. That’s not to say Cade won’t be special but when I look at upside, I’m telling you Brian, this kid Jalen is…I don’t like throwing Kobe’s name out there but he has that kind of explosiveness and spectacular to his game in the same way where you watch Ja Morant do some of the things he does. If they pick Jalen, he’d be the most athletic player they’ve had since a healthy Grant Hill. … I think he’ll not only be a spectacular player, scorer, can play both positions, really smart kid. Let me give you another insight. He played for the Oakland Soldiers. They asked me to go speak to the team. I did some research, saw he was on the team. They wanted me to talk about social media. I go and meet him and told him “I’m gonna use you as an example. Do you think you can take this?” “What do you mean?” “I’m gonna critique your social media in front of all your teammates and say what I would keep, get rid of and what is a concern. If you don’t think you can take this in front of your teammates, let me know and I’ll pick someone else or not do it at all. But I think you’re the star, you’re the guy gonna get critiqued the most, I wanna use you as an example.” I went across his social media. Oh, this picture with you and your sister is great. Keep that unless you don’t want anyone knowing who’s in your family. I mentioned rap music with some expletives in it. Different pictures he posted that were great, some that were questionable. I was told he goes home and tells his mother & stepfather “I’m trying to be a role model. I want people to watch me and look up to me. I take that serious so I need to scrub my social media and make sure that it has positive, good things. I still want to be cool, a cool kid.” but at 16/17, he realized there was an image he should portray as someone who was a future NBA star. He didn’t take it personally. The next time I saw him, he thanked me and told me what he learned from it. That showed me off the court the kid is together too. That’s not to say Cade Cunningham isn’t. I don’t know Cade Cunningham. My Jalen story on & off the court, he’s special. He has that it factor. There’s something about him that has a twinge of Kobe to it that I like. It’s OK to have several great players. I don’t know if there’s a wrong decision but what I saw from Jalen, he has an opportunity to be a spectacular player in this league. A box office player. Windhorst: Pelton, what do you think about the Pistons not going Cunningham? Pelton: I got my projections out on Tuesday for the draft. Cunningham is at the top but all four guys if you include Evan Mobley & Jalen Suggs, I personally love Jalen Suggs,… Windhorst: I love his game too. Talking to scouts, he has to work on his PnR game & stuff. He may have a little bit of curve but how can you not be impressed? Pelton: Something about his game that reminds me of a little of Brandon Roy, who is my all-time favorite player to watch. The reason Cunningham is at the top is he’s number one on our top 100 rankings, which is a important component of those consensus projections. If you were to consider him in your scouting the number two guy and Green (or Mobley/Suggs) number one, that would lift them to the top of the group, that’s how close they all are. Windhorst: The Rockets pretty publicly have been locked on Green for awhile but it’s because we assumed the Pistons were locked on Cunningham. There are people who have said Mobley would be the number one pick in other years. I talked to a scout who said low end LaMarcus Aldridge, high end Chris Bosh. In the current NBA, he’s the ideal big man.
I'm really curious as to what advantages Pistons get for being publicly indecisive about Cade and being openly enamoured with Green. All it does is raise Green's stock value.
So you think he'll be better in the NBA than he was in the g league? Bold, especially considering he won't even be a starter if the Rockets draft him and can't dump Wall.
Well, typically players who score about 17 points per game in the G league translate to about 10 points per game in the NBA. I think that's about what should be expected from him, if he manages closer to 15, that would be amazing.
It doesn't really matter if his stock value raises, they have the #1 pick. Raising the stock value only matters if it means someone picks your guy before you do, which is impossible for Detroit.
Depends on spacing *Will Eric Gordon provide cover fire? Be healthy? *Wall? I expect him to be working on physical weaknesses of last season....draw more attention on drives. *Can Wall shoot around 34% or better from 3. Help space the floor *Wall/Porter/EGo facilitate and kick out? Green was somewhere around 40% on CnS 3's from NBA distant G-league *C Wood draw coverage in the paint......still shoot 3's as well as last season. Provide spacing again. *Will Olynyk be back? Provide spacing some inside presence in the paint. Silas likes Olynyk handling the ball on the perimeter for high pick n roll. Olynyk will hit Green for some back door cuts, slashing to the basket high flying dunks. *Tate improve his 3-pt shooting? Provide spacing * Khyri Thomas improve in all aspects *Kenyon Martin jr maintain that 17 points per game and 39-ish % shooting from 3 that he provided in the final 10 to 15 games. Provide spacing. *D House provide some 3's, steals, get out in the fast break.....Green is a demon in fast break. ______________________________ See a theme here........SPACING!!!! Jalen Green got very little spacing but is able to dribble through fine spacing and contort near the basket and finish. Outside of Bobby Brown I didn't respect the 3-pt shooters surrounding Green. 1) shooting 3"s 2) fast break points 3) drives off of PnR, Isolation, hand offs, off screens, step back jumpers 4) FT's (82% FT shooter) 5) Silas scheme of slashing, diving, back door cutting to rim Depending on the minutes allocated......23 points per game. More minutes more points [Wall/Eric Gordon building trade value x Trading Deadline] ###trams trying to force a switch can/will fatigue Green some; which will limit his scoring production in year one. It's in year 2 when he turns 21 where I expect great things from young Mr. Green.
