1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[Official] Rangers @ Astros

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Jul 23, 2021.

  1. sealclubber1016

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2010
    Messages:
    21,335
    Likes Received:
    34,309
    At this point I'm more than a little concerned with Framber's command.

    I'm still hoping it's just an adjustment period, but his command has fully reverted to pre turnaround levels over the last month. His stuff has always been filthy and was never the problem, putting it where he wanted to was.
     
  2. Marshall Bryant

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2018
    Messages:
    10,455
    Likes Received:
    6,192
    Dr. Please No!
     
  3. marks0223

    marks0223 2017 and 2022 World Series Champions
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2007
    Messages:
    11,866
    Likes Received:
    17,405
  4. Rock Block

    Rock Block Sorta here sometimes
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2001
    Messages:
    13,177
    Likes Received:
    16,628
    I’ve read numerous articles on George, from AP and non-Toronto sites and I just read another blurb saying this is the catch of the year and not a single ONE has mentioned GS being part of our 2017 team. Not that I want them to mention it but here in lies what this was all about, destroying an organization and city, not necessarily the players once they get out. I mean we’ve already seen this but it just continues to be confirmed.
     
  5. Nick

    Nick Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 1999
    Messages:
    50,790
    Likes Received:
    17,159
    The best thing the Astros organization can do at this point is to keep winning. After they win long enough, the narrative will shift from “they cheated!” To “they never needed to cheat”. That and more info from the widespread nature of schemes.

    It’s already heading there for the most part. There are still trash can gifs under that Springer catch. The players won’t ever fully escape it, but fan booing and media sniveling loses a lot of effect when its just against one person, vs. a team.
     
  6. Rock Block

    Rock Block Sorta here sometimes
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2001
    Messages:
    13,177
    Likes Received:
    16,628
    Couldn’t agree more and most of us have expressed the same opinion. Keep winning and at some point it changes the narrative but four years later it still persists. We have to capture the titles like NE did if that is going to happen.
     
    HTXSportsAddict and Nick like this.
  7. Nick

    Nick Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 1999
    Messages:
    50,790
    Likes Received:
    17,159
    It’s really only 1 year later… as the MLB findings were announced early 2020.

    2019 started getting lumped with 2017, unfairly so, because of this timing. The 2020 abbreviated season didn’t help and everybody has pretty much forgotten that post-season (and them being within 1 game of the WS), as the regular season didn’t really separate the best of the best.

    This is the first real season since the ‘scandal’ came to light. As the season has gone on, there’s been less booing on the road, less off-handed remarks from opposing team announcers. Yes, the Yankees series stirred up some old memories… and I’m sure they’ll get vilified in the upcoming Dodgers series in LA. But those cities/fan bases will probably always be scarred to a point. The Chicagos, Tampas and even Boston’s won’t care much going forward.
     
  8. Rock Block

    Rock Block Sorta here sometimes
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2001
    Messages:
    13,177
    Likes Received:
    16,628
    Sorry, my reference of four years was in regards to not having won a WS since 2017. I’m well aware of when the news broke but yes your points on it temping down lately are valid. I’ve posted on here a few times that I have friends that are Rex Sox lifers and they’re all well aware of what occurred, what they did and how we’re getting the shaft.
     
    Nick likes this.
  9. The Beard

    The Beard Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2012
    Messages:
    11,370
    Likes Received:
    7,117
    The BEST thing we can do is at in a few more titles! Say we win this year and next, then again in 24…put up 3 or 4 titles with this group!!

    That changes the narrative

    Look at the Patriots, all kinds of scandals with them and most involve Brady….and ask any football fan with even a tiny bit of knowledge and he can tell you Brady is the GOAT

    Go win some more titles Altuve while guys like gap tooth Judge gets the media attention and wins nothing…eventually it will change
     
  10. mvpcrossxover

    mvpcrossxover Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2008
    Messages:
    31,693
    Likes Received:
    15,622
    A's lost on a wild pitch LOL
     
  11. Uprising

    Uprising Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2000
    Messages:
    43,044
    Likes Received:
    6,571
    Hahahah. A's lose in a wild pitch.
     
    Stephen66 and TWS1986 like this.
  12. Redfish81

    Redfish81 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2016
    Messages:
    4,766
    Likes Received:
    6,883
    That was awesome. Nice job A's

    4.5 game lead
     
    Stephen66 and TWS1986 like this.
  13. swakid8

    swakid8 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2007
    Messages:
    680
    Likes Received:
    680
    Oakland lost
     
    TWS1986 likes this.
  14. TWS1986

    TWS1986 SPX '05, UH' 19

    Joined:
    May 11, 2020
    Messages:
    4,061
    Likes Received:
    4,242
    Not sure if it's been posted, but Oakland lost.
     
  15. Marshall Bryant

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2018
    Messages:
    10,455
    Likes Received:
    6,192
    No it won't. There is plenty of evidence of that all around you. The NARRATIVE, even when wrong, never changes.
     
  16. cmlmel77

    cmlmel77 Up all Night Watching Houston Sports
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2006
    Messages:
    2,317
    Likes Received:
    5,210
    Just woke up. Did Oakland lose?
     
  17. Stephen66

    Stephen66 Member
    Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2020
    Messages:
    6,045
    Likes Received:
    8,060

    Cancel culture wants to take the 2017 title away.
     
    Rock Block likes this.
  18. TWS1986

    TWS1986 SPX '05, UH' 19

    Joined:
    May 11, 2020
    Messages:
    4,061
    Likes Received:
    4,242
    I need to verify. Standby.
     
    cmlmel77 likes this.
  19. ktex

    ktex Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2012
    Messages:
    947
    Likes Received:
    1,247

    Agree, this isn't good at all. Must have been using the spider tack. God damn.
     
  20. Marshall Bryant

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2018
    Messages:
    10,455
    Likes Received:
    6,192
    Why the focus on Framber? Wouldn't Gibson's sudden loss of control be more damning?
     

Share This Page