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Kevin Porter Jr. - how good can he be?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ashleyem, Mar 28, 2021.

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What is your prediction on KPJ’s career?

Poll closed Apr 27, 2021.
  1. Franchise player

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  2. Borderline Allstar

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  3. Role Player

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  4. Benchwarmer

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  1. Reeko

    Reeko Member

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    if u want to believe his off the court antics are no big deal, then you’re free to do so…he wasn’t with the Cavs for most of the season, and then ultimately given away for nothing for a reason
     
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  2. Denovo

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    He’s had no off court antics as a Rocket.

    No reason to hold things over his head that have nothing to do with us.

    Is he not allowed to make mistakes and learn from them like men do?

    We should be praising the man for his growth and improvement this past season if anything.
     
  3. Reeko

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    no reason to act like his past antics are nothing either tho, especially when they’re all recent and just caused him to get traded for absolutely nothing…his behavior is also the reason he fell all the way to 30th in the draft too

    he got suspended from the team in his 1 college season

    USC guard Kevin Porter Jr. has been suspended indefinitely by the program for his off-court behavior and could be kicked off the team, according to Brady McCollough of the Los Angeles Times.

    "He was suspended for conduct issues," head coach Andy Enfield said Monday. "We'll re-evaluate his future with the program this week."

    Porter had initially been suspended for just Monday's game against Oregon for an incident that happened between the team's previous game Thursday and Sunday morning, per McCollough
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    let’s not act like this dude doesn’t have clear issues controlling himself…yeah, it’s great he didn’t do something crazy in his half season with the Rockets, but he is still not to be trusted until further notice
     
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  4. Denovo

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    Until he does something as a Houston Rocket. None of that matters.
    it’s a fresh start.

    In order to create room for growth you have to allow room for error.

    You don’t rehab a troubled player by condemning him. You embrace him treat him the same way as his peers.
     
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  5. BallSoHarden

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    I agree, I mean it is not only that he was given away, but the fact he dropped to where he did in the draft, there was already issues, otherwise he would have been a top 5 pick. I am just saying, and more so hoping it is perception, and we really got a true franchise guy that will mature. My other point is that other players get involved in things in the off season, but as they make more money and understand how to get by as a high profile athlete they tend to learn how to stay out of the spotlight with negative stories. I had no concerns with Harden every off-season when there would be a story of him being involved in something, because I know he was going to put in the work. Not everyone will have the Steph Curry or Lebron image in the league. You are right that players almost need to earn their right to get away with things like this, you can not be young and unproven and pull the same stuff a veteran does, hopefully KPJ stays out of trouble and earns his place as a top player.
     
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  6. Reeko

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    u don’t act like his past actions were nothing or don’t matter either tho

    trust needs to be earned…a half season of not getting into a trouble is a good start, but I can’t sit here and act like there’s nothing to worry about now when it comes to KPJr off the court because he managed not to act out for a couple of months
     
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  7. Denovo

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    The trust was broken with the Cavs not us.
    The second he got traded here his slate was clean.

    He’s not the first troubled NBA player and he won’t be the last.

    Nothing he’s done was even that bad to be calling him crazy.

    You tellin me you don’t know a single person with a gun and some weed? Come on now lol.
     
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  8. Reeko

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    the occasional issue that popped up during a Harden strip club adventure wasn’t a big deal, he didn’t have anywhere near the amount of red flags that KPJr is working with

    this is a guy u think would’ve went top 5, but he fell all the way to 30…not because he had some major injury, but simply because of his behavior…then just a year later, a bad team like the Cavs just gives away a young talent like that for a top 55 protected pick because they felt they could no longer control or put up with him…it’s been 1 thing after another…hopefully getting traded for nothing was the wakeup call that he needed…if he had come here and started acting a fool again, he’d probably be in serious danger of being out of the league being deemed a lost cause and too much of a headache to deal with
     
  9. Reeko

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    suspended from college

    the guy y’all think should’ve been a definite lotto pick in his draft and many say would be a top pick for sure in this year’s draft drops down to 30

    is not with the team for most of the season due to personal issues, and then just a few days after he arrives, has a ridiculous outburst and gets traded for a top 55 protected pick like he’s Kyle Wiltjer or *insert some other end of bench scrub with no upside

    but ok, nothing to worry about at all when it comes to KPJr’s behavior because he hasn’t done anything in the few months he’s been here
     
  10. Tom Bombadillo

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    All I care about is his time in H-Town. He is our Mad Max now, hope he brings the nasty on the court like Mad Max.
     
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    Vernon had sinilar issues in college that caused him to slip. Do you remember when Vernon was sent to Houston?
     
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    It only mattered before you got him.

    Now that you got him he deserves a clean slate because his contract is with the Houston Rockets and not with the Cavs. I dont give a F what he did in another person's uniform that aint my team. Wall was a star in the wizards now he sucks I dont give a **** about his time on the wizards.

    It's like when companies hire an ex-con then the HR and Hiring manager sees that as a red flag and considers if he is still worth hiring. But once you make that decision to hire him, you dont hang his checkered past over his head and treat him differently over any one else. If the excon is showing promise and looking like he deserves a promotion you gonna deny it because he is an excon? Nah.

    KPJ hasnt done anything wrong as a Rocket and doesnt deserve to get docked pre emptively just cuz of his checkered past. It's the same thing if he was a former no 1 pick, you use that as a plus point in getting him but once he is on the squad he is judged on his current merit and not his past.
     
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  13. Denovo

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    John Wall was posting Instagram stories with bloods and crips right before he got traded here.

    You gon hold that over his head too? He’s 30 lol

    What about Christian Wood’s problematic history that got him cut from several teams?

    Stop being petty.

    These not just basketball players they have ups and downs like the rest of us.

    If KPJ wasn’t in the league he’d have the history of a normal person.
     
  14. BallSoHarden

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    Worst case scenario he goes all Sprewell and decks Tilly. I'll take my chances on KPJ.
     
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    Kpj hasn’t done anything with the Rockets. But more importantly he didn’t do anything with the Cavs either and hasn’t done anything bad since joining the NBA, that’s exactly why he acted out in the locker room in the first place because he was being crucified and punished for sht he never did. Two allegations that were DROPPED. This is still America where you are innocent until proven guilty last I checked. Yet he was being held out the entire season and sent to the scrub section for what exactly? That’s why he was saying “modern day slavery”, not that i agree with him acting out, he is still an immature kid, but as far as off the court supposed red flags, he has done NOTHING.
     
  16. coachbadlee

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    I get it. There is a pattern of behavior that is not ideal. But I would also say that he handled himself well as the starting PG. Maybe a full season as the starter is what's needed. Having the responsibility of having to lead a team tends to do wonders for some.
     
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    Many Rockets fans won't let Porters past be his past. (Not saying you Coach)

    I'm guessing these same members here have never had teenage kids?

    They some times act up.... especially those without father figures.
    John Lucas just might be that father figure in his life that be has been
    lacking?

    Time will tell. I'm banking on him being a standout citizen
    during his Rockets tenure. Despite all the naysayers. People just
    want him to fail, just like some people want car crashes at NASCAR.
     
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    Obviously you are totally uninformed. KPJ was arrested for drunk driving and carrying a loaded gun and mar1juana in the glove compartment in November, and was separated from Cleveland's roster all year.
    What Harden does or doesn't do is the Nets' problem now. It matters little to me. My concern is with the players on my team.
    I want KPJ to find his way to success in Houston, mature, and leave his problems behind.
     
  19. BallSoHarden

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    Hahahaha I am uninformed? Not sure why you guys are just making stuff up on KPJ at this point, drunk driving? Really? So the police just decided not to charge him huh? Just like they decided not to charge him for supposedly beating a woman?

    Lol one person on here wants to claim KPJ hit a woman, again copy and paste only the first line of an article, but ignore the part where they say they were accused of something that was later disproven and no charges were filed as a result, and the Cavs saying it was a non story.

    Now we got you putting a felony on KPJ of drunk driving huh? That is how you support your team huh, just make stuff up, you are an awful fan.

    "Troopers said Porter appeared exhausted, but there was no indication that he was impaired."

    "Police did not believe Porter was under the influence of alcohol or drugs at the time of the crash.

    A grand jury in Mahoning County declined to indict Porter on the felony gun charge. Misdemeanor charges of mar1juana possession and driving without a license were also dismissed. Porter admitted fault for failure to control his vehicle."
     
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    Only a true idiot thinks that the whole world conspires against him! And you are the exact proof.
    KPJ was suspended indefinitely by the university in 2019 for behavioral problems, in the draft 29 teams pass on him and the team that selects Kevin ends up separating him from the roster for the entire season and negotiating him for practically nothing. Then the NBA punishes KPJ for violating health and safety protocols.
    Let's see if you understand once and for all, I am not the one who says that KPJ has had problems off the field, it is each of his teams. Do you understand or not?
    All this does not prevent KPJ from maturing and growing as a player, he seems to be working very hard to focus on the sport and that is a very good sign.
    Again, no one said that KPJ is not going to be a great player, I just care more about his maturing process than his technical qualities.
    It is incredible how there are people like you who simply do not accept different opinions and think that everything is a malicious attack.
    Have a nice day
     
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