Great trade idea. If Knicks strike out on another big time player, they might give it a chance for next year. They could then by him out the following year if they wanted to.
Man, Im gonna go agaisnt the grain here and say that we've been treating this dude like crap man. He didnt choose to be here. And none of us would have a buy out if we were in his position. He's been pretty good to the city and the only problem weve had with him is that he's really just on the timeline of our squad. We dont really know if the dude is actually "toxic" or not, its just hearsay.
I don’t think he’s toxic just doesn’t fit as a starter. Still think he could be useful as the lead for the second team.
For the record I'm not the author of the article in which John Wall, "liked" And John Wall also voted in a Rockets Poll not too long ago which asked the question: "Will John Wall be moved this off-season?" or "Still be a Rocket beyond this off-season." (paraphrasing not direct quotes) Wall was seen voting, "moved."
I mean, realistically, we need to trade him, but I really dont think this much hatred should be aimed at a dude who's on a tank....err rebuilding team right now, especially when honestly, he helped us get that number 2 pick. He's just not a fit for us tbh. The Rockets should honestly reach some type of agreement with him(not a buy out cause he wont do it).
John Wall hasn’t done anything wrong. He did everything right. Everyone’s goal is to get paid and he has done that.
Good to know still think it's in the best interest of both parties he needs to go to a team that's ready to win now . The Rockets can still get possibly get a 1st for him from a good team that's in a win now mode..
I think the best-case scenario is that Wall begins the season as a 30 MPG starter, rotated heavily with our young guys. He gets his FG% up a bit, and, most importantly, doesn't see extended injury time. When the trade deadline comes, some team in Win-Now mode will take a chance on Wall if he's 75-80% what he was pre-injury (even with his massive contract). Problem is, he didn't play to that level for most of last season (not consistently, at least). I'm sure he's approaching this season as an opportunity to audition for another team in advance of the deadline, to show that he's physically capable of contributing on a nightly basis. And I'm sure other teams with an established core will also be looking at his willingness to check his ego and do what's best for the team's success (in our case, helping the young guys develop). So while I doubt a deal will happen during the offseason, I think if he looks strong during the first half of the season, someone will come knocking.
K. I gave it a go. It involves a lot of teams, but they would be kind of secondary trades. Bare with me.. Rockets in - PatBev, Kennard, Jeremy Lamb, No.13 Clippers in - John Wall, 2023 Milwaukee Bucks pick via Houston Pacers in - Marcus Morris, Eric Gordon, Danuel House, No.24 Heres where it gets really messy because of salary and picks Celtics in - Dejounte Murray Spurs in - Myles Turner, Al Horford Pacers in - 2023 and 2025 1st round picks via Boston, Romeo Langford or Aaron Nesmith. C's get their PG Spurs get a vet and a building peice Pacers get their vets for their pick (and a young piece) plus future draft capital Clippers get Wall We get back in the Lottery and a slightly cheaper Gordon bench replacement. Plus 2 expiring contracts.
Nope not giving up a 1st. He can ride the bench for the next 2 years over that. Happy to trade him as long as the contracts coming back are expirings or 2 year deals.
I don't think people hate him, we're just indifferent. He's an albatross contract that isn't fun to watch because he's always injured or ball hogging. The contract does't really matter. We're not competing anyway, but him hogging the ball and not facilitating the young guys on the team is the problem, which I can't really blame him for -- he wants a career revival most likely.
Isn‘y that the plan to begin with? We basically got Baby Harden and gonna draft Baby Kobe to go along with Baby AD and Baby Draymond. We just need a baby KD and we got our own baby Hampton-5
