True, but most scouts think that his dunk tool can be developed with NBA caliber strength conditioning.
Bradley Beale was the #3 draft pick how the hell did he come out of nowhere? I'm starting to detect a bit a bit of a lack of actual basketball knowledge among the people carping for Green the hardest. Once again I ask do we want to win or just have a guy that scores 20 ppg. Green is more acrobatic and nimble than Lavine? Wut?
Lack of rebounding plus a thin frame and high center of gravity doesn’t scream defensive anchor to me. Doesn’t mean he can’t be a great defensive player but if defense is your main calling then it is a bit concerning in the context of selecting so player with the #2. I dont think you are ignorant but you and others try so hard to play gotcha instead of having a discussion.
the safest pick is to hire a great coach and a great shooting coach so that you may develop whoever you take
-I brought up Beal at #3 behind Ad so i'm well aware. It was a terrible draft class even if you hindsight add Lillard and Draymond to the top behind AD. So when i say Beal came out of no where, i mean no one here or in Washington can say they envisioned a 30ppg scorer. 25ppg a few years but mostly around 22 is what most expected. -How is Mobley going to help you win next year then? What exactly does winning mean to you? Mobley's defense is going to be enough to keep us out of the lottery and enter a mediocrity treadmill? -Yes. Green is more acrobatic and athletic than LaVine all around. Easy eye test.
What does it matter if he went from 22 to 25 ppg and the point still remains he is averaging all of those points and still struggling to make the playoffs. Why do I care what Mobley is gonna do to help us win next year, I can ask you the same question about Green and I can see Mobley doing much more than Green to contribute to winning next year. Mobley impacts the game far more than just defensively and nobody should want the rockets to be out of the lottery next year which shows again you don't have a clue. The fact that you think Green is more acrobatic and athletic than Lavine shows you need glasses so you can actually see.
Well said. Lottery picks need to have an immediate impact. My top 2 pick should not only be a starter but be ready to make an impact now. If we’re talking floor vs ceiling then we got the pick wrong.
You're right i don't have a clue. I have no clue what were arguing about anymore. If you want the Rockets in the draft lottery next year, so do i. Green is better guard prospect than Hardy. Holmgren and Banchero both look like safer choices over Mobley so i take green now or Cade and i want one of the top bigs next year.
The fact that you think drafting Green gets us out of the lottery next year says everything about your basketball IQ and then the fact that you actually don't want us in the lottery next year just makes me embarrassed for you.
They'll both be fine but mobley is going to need alot of time to develop at least 3 years. Green is going to be ready to go. So it all depends how long we want to wait.
Whaaaat are you arguing? When did i say Green gets us out of the lottery. I have been all for Green now and tank next year for Banchero/Holmgren all along. You got me confused with someone else man. I literally just said "so do i" in agreement about the lottery in your quote...what is going on here?
So why did you make a point of saying drafting Mobley will still have us in the lottery? Your words not mine. "How is Mobley going to help you win next year then? What exactly does winning mean to you? Mobley's defense is going to be enough to keep us out of the lottery and enter a mediocrity treadmill? What was that?
Most lottery picks don't have immediate impacts and that goes for top 5 picks as well. So you would be disappointed in most drafts.
Green has a higher floor IMO His willingness to shoot from 3 and make a good amount , along with his athleticism, make him look kinda like a demar derozan with a 3 point ball. Scoring doesnt count for everything , but it does count. I think evaluating him as a 20 point scorer is underselling. He could probably be a bench player on a championship team year 1, however, he'd have to gain a lot on defense. Mobley has to both gain nba strength and knowledge and elevate/maintain his skills. The floor is much lower if he's a liability on defense or offense. The bar for good NBA defensive big has risen. I have looked at his highlights and scouting report and think that he is a couple of years away.
