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Trump's Taxes - Turns out - the man is a fraud and deeply in debt!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DaDakota, Sep 28, 2020.

  1. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Member

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    does hunter have a cult folling though?

    hunter can be the devil himself the problem the people who voted for the devil himself
     
  2. vlaurelio

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    hunter is the devil

    your trump is not not a tax cheat no more

    happy now?
     
  3. Os Trigonum

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    I wish people would leave poor Hunter alone
     
  4. Rashmon

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    That Hunter sure was a corrupt president. Most corrupt president ever.

    It's a shame people divert so much attention away from how incredibly horrible he was for our country.
     
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  5. DonatelloLimestone

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    thats what I didn't get. Even when it came to the Gov of California or ny, or even trump. I totally get if people are sincere in their beliefs of conservative or liberal principles, so if one leader abuses that they somehow go into dear leader mode and get tricked its more important to protect one man or woman's brand or future bust in capital rather than public trust, intregrity in the actual principles. I didn't think newson was that bad, but he handled himself some terrible optics during the pandeimc, a spit in the face of the livllihoods he demanded be halted while going to his own 10k dinner with a lobbyist. Likewise Cumo is a different story, corrupt for years, an ******* who rules with an iron fist for years..and sort of lke trump, very flexible on any principles, basically stands for nothing, fights for his own preservence and here most of the polarized side fall straight in line, rather than finding a new rep or employees WHEN warranted, just fight for people, not actual ideas. Its laughable that people paint trump as some true conservative constitutionalism, you don't have to go far in his own quotes to see thats not the case...but its the same deal

    diane feinstein can't remember what she said minutes agao and repeats the same thing over again during public business...its totally ok to move forward bc the policy, cities aren't holding and waiting for her...but the general twitterverse paints it as she earned her right to decide when hse leaves...this is public service, this aint about them...unless you ask them or their blind supporters!
     
  6. DonatelloLimestone

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    Yea but just lke trump...he sits there and says he won't be nvolved with his business, his followers nod...
    His family do the same thing clintons do, sadly what most politicians do...they charge for access, you can't prove quid pro pro, but undoubtedly they sell access.. raise his hotel fees, membership fees, same old donors just like in past presidents get fancy positions and or even ambassadorships.

    no doubt its an ambarassment that betsy devos is running our education, scott pruit was in charge of education before he got caught buying himself a load of stuff with tax payers...interestingly enough trump himself called out Elaine Chao for being tie to china...he appointed her, kind of like the other people he appointed and then called them morons(after they said he was an idiot) and then runs off talking about how he only hires the best bc hes such a smart business man...sad people buy this stuff

    And its probably a product of hte out of touch private jet politicial class... out o touch until politicla season, shows up for end game policies for their photo ops, focus on brand, not policy and basically a washington that has made their lives glamo
    rous full of fundraisers an living in a silly bubble that resembles WWE in cohets with Fox news and MSNBC(don't worry for all those people citing tucker carlson's lawsuit where he says reasonable people would do research before trusting tucker...that was a precedent set by Rachel Maddow...almost very smilar case, similar outcome)

    And biden was a big part of this, from the funding from private prisons, delware credit unions an LLC that he preached, let alone almost every war or drug war that he aggressively supports.
    How about his own appointments?

    We all know trump was immature an hotile to the press..heck his former staff Corey L physically assaulted a woman journalst...That can't ever happen right/? thank god biden said he'll be bettter....then he goes an brings in Neera TAnden who was not confirmed by senate...screw the democratic process, its more important to pay political favors and so when shewas rejected by the democratic process, he still appointed her as special advisor in the cabinet...he said it was just cuz her tweets...nah
    She physically assaulted a reporter for asking hilary a question about foreign policy she didn't like...bragged about it saying she pushed him not slugged him...but yea thats fine, let alone they touted her as someone who grew up on food stamps only to ignore that she was in favor for removing those very same entitlements

    https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/5...white-house-using-identity-politics-to-defend

     
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  7. DonatelloLimestone

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    ok thats finethat maybe the the fair criticism, this is not on 'topic' but otherwise all the stuff I said were facts. Yea I agree, I'm not trump supporter. I think hes one of the biggest cons to see america, that has no effecct for me to blindly preten like biden's history an policies aren't what they are. My main point is, call out o all the fraud and corruption, no matter who its from rather than saying well my new BF steals from me, but at least its much better than my last who beat the **** out of me.
     
  8. adoo

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    the mental midget continues to publicizes his stupidity.

    too stupid to understand

    Ivanka is an officer of the Trump co,
    who withholds payroll tax on her regular paychecks, as well as issuing her a W-2 at year-end.
    in this case, Ivanka is being treated as an employee.

    as reported, supported by documentation of Trump co's accounting record and a copy of the check,
    Ivanka had also been compensation $750K that was classified (by to Trump co) as consultant expense, w no tax withholding.
    even tho that she is an officer of the company, in this instance, the Trump co treats her as a consultant, clearly a scheme to avoid paying withholding tax

    Ivanka is either an employee or consultant, cannot be both.


    the mental midget is confused, all mixed up.

    the issue is the Trump co, her employer, did not withhold PR tax on the $750K compensation paid to her​
     
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  9. vlaurelio

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    but Hunter and Joe are just as big tax cheats though

    - @DonatelloLimestone
     
  10. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Ivanka isn't par of the investigation.

    Ivanka being paid a consultant is an issue between the company and her

    Why are you rehashing this argument with no new information?
     
  11. pgabriel

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    @adoo

    https://www.latimes.com/world-natio...estigation-trump-consulting-fees-ivanka-taxes

    Please let this go and move on with your life

    From the article. See how I actually quote the article I link unlike uou.


    Records strongly suggested that $747,622 of those fees had been paid to Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter, through a company she owned at a time when she was also a Trump Organization executive, the newspaper report said.

    If true, that wouldn’t necessarily pose a problem for Ivanka Trump herself, as long as she paid income tax on the consulting payments,


    The fees weren't paid to her they were paid to her company
     
  12. rocketsjudoka

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    I'm not denying the facts of what you say and nothing wrong with calling out Biden but honestly a lot of this sounds like sanctimonious self-righteousness of going out of the way to show how much you will criticize both sides.

    And I know as that's something I've been criticized for.

    There is plenty of opportunities to criticize Biden at the moment all you're doing is confusing the issue with something that you actually agree with that Trump was a corrupt President and that his family is corrupt.
     
  13. adoo

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    ur describing the tax fraud,

    the creation of a shell co to receive compensation for Ivanka
    to help the Trump co to avoid withholding PR tax,
    but too stupid to understand it as such.


    the same goes for the half-assed author of that half-assed article to which you had referenced
     
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  14. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    What tax law prevents Ivanka from owning a company that does business for Trump Organization while she is an officer?
     
  15. adoo

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    ur confused, all mixed up. what else is new?

    stop digressing, stay on topic which has been

    you have repeatedly publicized the fact that it is beyond your mental capacity to understand this simple fact


    Ivanka is an officer of the Trump co,
    who withholds payroll tax on her regular paychecks, as well as issuing her a W-2 at year-end.
    in this case, Ivanka is being treated as an employee.

    as reported, supported by documentation of Trump co's accounting record and a copy of the check,
    Ivanka had also been compensated $750K that was classified (by to Trump co) as consultant expense, w no tax withholding.
    the payment was made to one of Ivanka's shell cos. clearly a scheme to help the Trump co avoid paying withholding tax

    Ivanka is either an employee or consultant, cannot be both.

     
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    I respect your poitn of view, but for me personally there's no sanctimonious self righteousness apart of it. I am not playing to any crowd, I'm anonymous on here and not apart of any party. they are just facts and they are true as you said.

    I'm not confusing myself about the issue, I just didn't feel the need to compartmentalize objective criticism. you can read up on how i will call out trump for his many bullshit lies, likewise with biden. I'd be happy to do it for any publlllc servant we entrust that abuses that trust, privelege, and power of people's resources. just simple as that. So in no chance in hell do I think trump is suited or would want him back in office, I'm at a loss of words at hte mental gymnastics that he still has supporters that excuse him for telling it how it is, then of course he can't be clear with us so he gives us hints, yada yada basically they are fed as much lies as tilman tellng people about the repeaters tax.

    Biden comes off as a nice enough guy, doesnt make the times that he had executive decision power and those decisions led to the death or incarceration of millions any better. To me ts totally ok to call em all out. They live just fine, cushy, and at our expense. This ain't about them, to any politiian, they are our employees we hire to represent no matter how far the rabbit hole the political world has become.
    You can look back at Kamala's Calfornia record, sadly you'll find some of the same things. As mentioned there were many formindable dem candidates outside of them
     
  17. vlaurelio

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    I.D.I.O.T.
     
  18. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Read carefully. The consultant fee is paid to her COMPANY

    Not her directly. So again, what tax law says as an employee she can't own a company her employer does business with?
     
  19. adoo

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    the mental midget still doesn't get it.

    too stupid to understand that

    Ivanka draws a salary from the Trump co, who withholds/pays PR tax on her paycheck, as well as issuing a W-2 to her at year-end
    this establishes the fact that she is an employee of the Trump co.

    a person is either an employee or consultant to a company, cannot be both.
     
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  20. DonatelloLimestone

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    yea the facts of looking at his actual policy and calling them account accordingly is idiotic, probably as idiotic as trump supporters feel when they read out list of his self serving decisions. Simply don't get the worship, culture, or tribalism that they can't even criticize without getting so defensive as if these people are bigger than the ideas and ideals themselves. Similarly some people on here just get all sensitive and call ot "anti tilman" any objective criticism of the guy...
     

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