(IG Live) Jalen Green on a potential KPJ-Green backcourt, "Kp know thats a scary backcourt"

ever heard of the terms "improvements" and "potential"?

so in greens first 1 in the gleague as a 19 year old when 30+ year old, 10+ year journeyman Lin averages more points him, you declare "green is not better than lin"

 

do you mean he can't get a shot off or he can't get past his defenders or he can't finish around the rim or he's afraid of contact?

or you're basing this on purely his pts per game?

 

It's a factual statement, Green is not currently better than the current version of Lin who is not good enough for the NBA.

I'm perfectly fine with those who say that maybe one day in the future Green will gain a bunch of basketball skills he currently lacks and eventually improve....my point is that he's being billed as "the next Kobe" and the player he currently is does not support that ridiculous hype.

He's a project player.

 

I'm basing it on watching every single G league game he played in and setting expectations based on the low level of competition he faced.

He was an alright scorer, but nothing special....and that's literally the only thing he brings to the table. He's a traffic cone on defense, he can't run an offense, and he was a net negative while on the court for his team.

 

But, other than that, you love him, right?

 

Not saying you can't be right long term, but aren't all rookies project players? Few are ever sure things and I don't think anyone on this class is such.

 

To some extent, sure, but some are more NBA ready than others. Guys like Ja Morant, Luka, Damian Lillard, KD, Chris Paul, Lebron, and many many more came into the league already killing it.

The hype on Green suggests he'd be that kind of player, but reality disagrees. He's a fairly raw project type that'll need to develop skills from scratch to be the caliber of player the hype suggests he is.

It's not that it can't happen, but it's far from a sure thing and likely at least a few years down the line if ever.

 

I'll acknowledge that Kevin needs to keep making progress off the court, and that his downside risk is still pretty large.

That said, I believe he's moved well beyond lottery ticket status.

Considering the mess that was last season.......

When Wall and Oladipo were out , and Wood was semi healthy.....with KPjr having the ball in his hands, it's a whole new ballgame. (50 & 11 against a Bucks team headed to the Finals)

While I understand you not wanting to make moves predicated on him...

The risk/reward ratio is getting better by the day for our just turned 21 yr old potential franchise player.

This kid is the TRUTH.

 

not as scary as lavine - wiggins duo!

 

lolololo so fitting, a full year of losing games on purpose only to draft another jeremy lin !!!!

there is no substitute for winning! its the right and the only way!

 

man did we really endured a year of losing on purpose just to pick up another G league player?
i was told repeatedly this draft is deep and the tanking is the smart way....

and now you tell me pick no 2 will be a player that struggled in g league?

 

Found it interesting how Chris Paul said Devin Booker was the big reason he chose the Suns. Green imo brings the shooting skills of a Booker or Beal, but with a Ja Morant level of athleticism and explosiveness.

 

I thought it was common knowledge both he was a project player? They are both project players, him and Mobley.

The only immediate impact player in this draft is Cade. Everyone else is a project or has a low ceiling. Which guard in this draft is better than Jeremy Lin? You realize if you took Jeremy Lin and put him back in college right now he'd average 35 pts a night right? You are acting like Green is some sort of scrub for not being better than Jeremy Lin bro GLeague is higher level than college. If in your eyes Green "struggled" in Gleague every other guard in the NCAA would struggle more than him.

If Green went to the NCAA where he could dunk on scrawny ass white boys his age instead of going up against former UCon top 14 scorers in history his stats would have inflated.

Do you even acknowledge the GLeague is superior to NCAA? Start with that first. You dumb AF if you think NCAA is better than GLeague at this point. All it would take is look at GLeague players and realize almost all of them are former NCAA stars.

 

Over here daydreaming we draft them both.

 

???

You are saying big is not large. The whole point of a unicorn is a big who has a unique blend of size, skill and athleticism. It's just a branding, if you wanna distill it as "David is a mobile pf" then you free are to do so. Jordan is just a scoring sg that, he didnt do anything unique on the court either. Doesnt mean there is a Jordan in the draft every year.

Davis doesnt just have "more agility than normal" lol wtf if all he has is more agility than normal why is he seen as a generational player? You said Davis is a top flight player so why is he a top flight player when you are claiming he just has more agility than normal and he is just a mobile PF? You even said his shooting isnt special either so let me get this straight according to you Davis doesnt have a special quality to him, all he does is stuff other PFs do and his skills arent special either. So why is he a top flight player then? Just because he is "more agility than normal"?

I dunno what tape you are watching but Thabeet looks nowhere near Mobley. Thabeet got by purely on his physical prowess, dude just blocked whatever came his way whereas Mobley uses skills and positioning. On offense, Thabeet just did dunks and layups whereas a lot of Mobley highlights has him doing more complex stuff like jab step into low post into turn around hook shot.

Mobley is only a good switch defender who can pass? Who the hell said that? You realize he is top 3 in every single mock right? This aint some scrub everyone has him top 3. Is everybody in the world dumb or you dumb?

 

Very well stated post. After all the stats that you posted regarding Green, I wonder how the Morey worshippers can ignore this and still argue for Green to be drafted no. 2. He might be full of flash and dash but the NBA has seen too many of these kinds of players who flamed out when the rubber hits the road.

 

Can we stop feeding the trolls please? Thanks.

 

So you’re an Evan Mobley guy?

 

He's the most gifted offensive player in this draft (Cade included) by a lot. He averaged 19 against NBA level dudes.

As far as NBA ready...I'm not even sure Cade is NBA ready. I'd say Suggs is more NBA ready than Cade is. Cade just has the whole package vs Suggs who's primarily a PG/facilitator or Green who's a pure scorer right now. Mobley offers nothing of much value currently as he doesn't have the size to bang with NBA bodies nor the quickness to hang with NBA forwards and guards. He's like a 3-4 year project, just has a crazy upside if he were to get it all together.

 

Why stop there?

I'm sure Harty will be MVP of NBA soon amirite?