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Jalen Green should be the pick

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Pringles09, Jun 22, 2021.

  1. J.R.

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    LOL
     
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    I personally don't remember anyone saying how humble he was. I thought everyone said he was hardworking and very critical of his own game and open to criticism from the outside. Claims which apparently all are true.

    He's tweeted about stuff like this before, he tweeted that had he gone to college, he'd be the #1 pick rn. This is not new
     
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    Can someone explain what this is to a person who doesn't have social media lol
     
  4. JayGoogle

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    I think people keep saying it because it feels like these reports are being used against Mobley and so the reply for some of us is to shrug and say say they don't think it matters that much. You say take it for what its worth so when people say 'I don't think it's worth anything' then they're just taking that advice, no disagreements from that right?

    Also yeah, the hype train around here is out of control, so many people comparing him to Kobe and the other day smoeone was serious about him being better than Donovan Mitchell...not even a "I think he could be better than Mitchell in a few years..." Just that oh yeah this guy will come into the NBA drop 26ppg on efficient shooting like that. Yeah, that's hype out of control. When some of us try to tamper the excitement people get really defensive about a player that isn't even on the team yet. I'm not saying you do, but it's been going on a lot lately. All I said was I'd be really cautious about him.

    It's funny you bring up Edwards because most people thought the opposite of him? I know the feeling was that he might not be that serious about this NBA thing and his interviews seemed to have confirmed that. Instead, it looks like Edwards is just a bit of a troll and character when he has a mic or camera in front of him and some people interpreted that wrong...and he still could turn out to be a bust too...some guys have great Rookie seasons and never really get better like Tyreke Evans.

    I think the point is no one knows but some people are seemingly very adamant that Green is a surefire bet to be a perennial all-star...I think it's fair to question that lol.
     
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  5. JayGoogle

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    Looks like he was liking a few OKC posts about him going there.
     
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    He belong to the streets
     
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  7. ThatBoyNick

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    He... he what

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    I'm starting to hope they draft Suggs after all this Green/Mobley drama and hyperbole :D
     
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  9. JayGoogle

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    At first everyone thought he was only liking Houston stuff but it looks like he's not as faithful as we once believed...
     
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    Suggs is still my favorite prospect lol

    Me and you, leader of the Sugg Thugs

    Mobley mob and Green gang asses gonna get these gator boots on sight
     
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    Suggs could easily have the best career of anyone in the draft. He's a straight baller, athlete, winner, and big shot maker. I'm leaning Mobley but will be an instant Sugg Thug if they go that direction. :cool:
     
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    The point is all of these guys are young and nobody knows how money will effect them. Same thing that was said about Green can also say about Mobley.
     
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    no disagreements if that were the case. But that’s not the case. Instead it’s gone 180 degrees to the implication that this is a bunch of hype and flash and no substance…. Because there are so many of the reports it must all just be hype.

    the hype train on both is out of control. People think Mobley is a clear unicorn.

    personally I’ve been very clear… I hope Cade falls to us, but if not lean Green.

    I was team Ball last year but mainly because I didn’t do a ton of research and was just very confident that Melo was Lonzo 2.0 or even 3.0, so I knew he’d be competent starter at least at some point.

    didn’t know much about Edward’s and still am a bit perplexed by him. Like I guess he had a good rookie season. His effficiency was pretty bad… but it’s not unheard of for that to improve. I think it’s rarer than thought but KD was even less efficient his rookie year before taking a big jump and another, etc.

    Some people are adamant that Mobley is the most unique prospect in 6 years, too…

    i don’t think either is true … but I do think if both are true and both reach this rare first ballot HOF level talent, I’d rather have the guard in today’s NBA… even if he is just an average defender.
     
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    Of course he isn’t he’s all about himself lol
     
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    Anytime you find a legitimate franchise PG, who can set the pace and tempo, while getting the whole team involved, it's a tremendous accomplishment.

    I'm very intrigued by Green and Mobley. Both guys seem like they are amazing talents. But in the same context, I know how important having a PG you can build a team with can be to a team.

    In the old days, you built teams around a center or a PG. Unless there was a can't miss prospect... It's a different NBA now, where it's a blend of sprinters and tag football --- So Centers aren't as crucial as they used to be..... But a PG may take an even more prominent role!

    As I am still very intrigue by all three (Mobley, Green, and Suggs), I will not commit to any one of those three guys, I can see many positives with each player individually. All three guys can figure to play prominent roles in the NBA for the next decade. As a Rocket fan, you hope that the Rockets select the guy who will stand out more-so than the rest.
     
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    Because he knows he is the #1 player in this draft.
     
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  17. JayGoogle

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    It by definition is hype though. Hype doesn't mean it's going to be false, it just means promotion. Maybe the hype turns out to be true though but maybe it doesn't. I'm not saying that he hasn't worked hard to get to where he's at but I don't think that means he'll maintain that hardwork when faced with NBA challenges. We simply don't know that.

    It's like a hyped movie or game, maybe it meets the hype maybe it doesn't, but Green has definitely seen a surge of hype as the draft gets nearer. It could just be natural or it could be his agent working behind the scenes to market him and/or get him the #1 pick. Nothing wrong with either scenario.

    I think the Mobley mob is just as excited but there's less of us so the hype for Green around here seems to be more. I think Mobley's floor makes him a more useful and unique player than Green's floor. I simply mean that it's harder to find bigs that can defend multiple positions than guards that can get buckets.

    I thought Ball was the best player in the draft because of his skills and yeah I wasn't that impressed by Edwards. Seemed like the typical 'NBA Body' guy who isn't skilled enough to succeed in the NBA...but he had a good seasno for a rookie, maybe he gets better or worse, I think that's really up to him of course.

    That really is the hardest thing to predict and like I mentioned you have guys like Tyreke Evans, Michael Carter Williams, Emeka Okafor, Wiggins, mike Miller...like you'd double check if someone told you these guys were once rookie of the year lol...but they never really built on their careers and just remained the same player as they entered the league, which for most of them led to them having solid NBA careers. I mean Tyreke was a good player before the PED ban and Wiggins isn't exactly a bad player...just his contract is garbage...but those guys never really improved their game.

    If Lamelo never gets better then all he really is for instance is a really nice starting PG...so it really is hard to predict if guys will have that hunger to just get better and better every year like Kobe or Harden or Durant or Lebron.

    Agree to disagree on that. I think big men have been so undervalued today and it isn't easy finding a big that you don't have to hide on defense or take out of the game. There's like a handful of them and most of them are on teams that went deep into the playoffs.

    Meanwhile, every top SG prospect is projected to be some amazing scorer. Jaden Hardy is already getting Bradley Beal comparisons...some comparisons to Harden so it's like...this is the top SG prospect nearly every year gets hyped about how dynamic a scorer they will be.
     
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    I do think he kind of does seem like that kind of guy lol. I'm not sure if it's a bad or good thing though. Maybe that ego drives him as it did Jordan, Kobe, Lebron...one would hope so if we were to draft him at least.
     
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    all this hype is just to justify tanking aka not really playing real basketball games for years ( because it isnt really basketball when youre not really trying to win)

    all these guys are huge huuuuge question marks...they cant be more removed from the sure thing and worth years of losing on purpose juts to get them...lolololol its pathetic
     
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    so we have been lied repeatedly last year ,over and over again, that top 4 is a guaranteed jackpot to justify the tank?
     

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