Yet a lot do not. Because they are so focused on making the basket or it will be deflected. It's not a basic pass, not amazing but shows a real feel for the game.
I think people really have to take into account that the next draft is big heavy and even if we don’t get a top 4 pick again, we have future picks and contracts to get us one so even though I love myself some versatile big man, I’m team Green!
Guys, @J.R. just put in a lot of effort to transcribe the dunked on podcast in depth analysis of Mobley. One… thanks @J.R. two… you can’t read it and think, this is a guy that should be number 2… without just thinking they’re wrong. Which they can be… they’re doing a podcast, not scouting for an nba team. But they bring up all the concerns that those of us that are leaning Green have about Mobley. I’m not going to reiterate them all… jr did three whole posts about it. Almost every bullet point felt either damming, or he’s good, but…. Even his measurements were disappointing to them. they are likely to do an episode on Green, too… and it may be just as damming. TBD. but if anything I came away from listening to that podcast thinking if it’s not Green, trade down. They seem to have slotted him as a slightly taller JJJ…
cmon i wont even play with you on playground if you cant make this pass.... i was told the entire season this years top 4 is legit players....this draft is deep etc....lololol....its the same scam and hype every year... theres no guarantee any of these guys will even become average nba players none of these would even beat andrew wiggins right now 1 on 1
That is a solid point, picking Green is a good way to get another top 4 pick next season. His team was -29 with him on the court when they needed him most in the playoffs, I think he's got what it takes to do the same for the Rockets. If the Rockets landed Cade or Mobley maybe they challenge for a playoff spot and that would lead to a mediocre pick next year.
I’ve always been a firm believer that Defense wins championships. For those non-Mobley believers you better recognize what truly matters.
What's even more damaging to the Green case is that his team had a -4.9 +/- with him on the court over the entirety of the G League season. That is NOT what you would expect from a #2 pick. By contrast, Evan Mobley's +/- was tops in the NCAA. Very clear distinction here, folks. From the looks of things (and the data), Green doesn't make those around him better.
what those of us who lean Green would actually like to see from those of you who lean Mobley - @D-rock @Roc Paint instead of continued “those guys just like dunks!!” or “did this kid have trouble getting into college” pointless posts that make it look like you are grasping at straws… wound be an actual analysis of game and how it wound translate into the NBA. @J.R. Nicely transcribed one of the more in-depth attempts at that I’ve heard to date… and nary a peep from any of you on it. When someone watches tape and basically says the only time I put anything down in all caps was to ask if the dude ever runs hard… that’s troubling. Never mind all the other troubling items they point out (in other words… basically every point they discussed). He’s tall but nowhere near the standing reach expected and not the thickness nor the ideal frame to build a ton in that. Etc. etc etc. again it’s three full posts of ?? Marks. you dont like Green… a ok. This isn’t a presidential election. THere’s lots of choices … including choosing neither and trading.
A compelling statistical analysis was just presented that showed Jalen Green had a negative 4.9 box score +/- when on the court this past season. This is in addition to Green posting pedestrian offensive stats, in which he scored less than points per game than Jeremy Lin and Nik Stauskas, two players who would ride the pine in the NBA today. Furthermore, Green had a league average efficiency rating -- in the G League. If this guy is the next Kobe Bryant, then the stats surely don't tell that story. On the other hand, Evan Mobley led the entire NCAA in box score +/-, was the TOP defender in the NCAA statistically, and was a Top 5 offensive player. Mobley is regarded by scouts as the best defensive big in several years. Folks, Mobley is real. And has the stats to back it up. Green simply doesn't.
I’ll say this one last time the Rockets are going to select Mobley with their pic if they don’t I’ll be more than happy to leave this website
Kobe Bryant, as a rookie in the NBA, had a NET rating of -10.6. I mean, he was 19 years old and playing against grown men, but that doesn't seem to matter. Just an FYI. Big men don't really get challenged in the NCAA. Not many guys there are actually skilled or big enough to challenge a guy like Mobley. Your arguments are only relevant in the vacuum that is the NCAA. Mobley will not be elite defensively in the NBA, atleast not immediately. So what do your arguments really say now. Bring up some legitimate points. This is all statistics bullshit without comparable metrics because the league they play in is vastly different. Stats are a good indicator if all the other variable are the same or roughly the same. They are not in this case. Your points are meaningless.
How'd Kobe do in the G-League? Because that's the league Jalen Green was in last year. Not the NBA. And it invalidates your argument, sorry.
