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Top 4 pick or Bust!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Trackwell, Jan 17, 2021.

  1. hakeem94

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    you know what the real fluke is? its tanking for years then winning the chip with high picks you drafted and developed
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  2. Trackwell

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    Not gonna argue with someone that doesn’t understand the game,
    What did you want the Rockets to do? trade for SIMMONS ?

    what’s Your game plan?
    Goal
    Is to win a championship Not make the freaking playoffs
     
  3. Trackwell

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    When I wrote this post back in January the Rockets were above 500...

    Clearly Rafeal stone and crew agreed with me Because we lost like 20 games in a row as soon as I drop this
    Obviously it’s not due to my post but it seems we have the same thought process on how to win
     
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  4. Ottomaton

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    Slightly off topic, but the next two years' candidates for the role of unicorn big man were recently playing in FIBA matches.

    Keep the tank rolling (Id be fine with Paolo and Emoni Bates, too). Rebuild is going to be bigger than one pick.

    2022 unicorn Chet Holmgren


    2023 unicorn Victor Wembanyama:
     
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  5. Trackwell

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    Exactly. These players are the goal I could care less what Christian Wood wants.

    Coach should have reassurance
     
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  6. hakeem94

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    if any of these top 4 were to play andrew wiggins 1 on 1 today...could any of them beat him?
     
  7. D-rock

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    LOL

    Both guys are even skinnier than Mobley with slighter frames. Same with Emoni Bates.

    Where is the fear of chronic injury, no chance in post vs. grown NBA men and inability to gain muscle?

    Hypocrisy at it's finest.
     
  8. peleincubus

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    Chet would be hella fun to cheer for. Then when he tragically snaps in half during an OT game and I have to watch my son ball and cry.
     
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  9. Ottomaton

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    Hm... considering Im all in on Mobley, I would appreciate it if you could document specific examples of actual things ive written?

    TIA.
     
  10. peleincubus

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    The Rockets get their center next draft. As Wall will get paid handsomely to deliver a top 4 pick again.
     
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  11. D-rock

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    If I've mistaken you for Green Gang then my apologies.

    Happy 4th!
     
  12. sydmill

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    That's the rub for me. Holmgren, Wembanyama and Banchero are each going to require a top 3 pick. I think that is the class of big that Mobley is in. While I think Jaden Hardy is the only guy as good as Green, I feel like there are multiple wings available that are in his class that could be had if the Rockets don't end up with a top 3 selection. For the record, if they're reasonably healthy, I think it is likely the Rockets are closer to 10 than 2 in next year's draft.

    If that's the case I think they get a wing closer to Green than a big in Mobley's class.
     
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    Stephen King's, Thinner.
     
  14. saleem

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    I like Banchero. He can get strong. The rest are very skinny.
     
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  15. D-rock

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    Agreed, also like his skillset.

    But Banchero is legit top 3 in a very talented draft.

    There are absolutely no guarantees that Rockets will be picking this high, we got lucky this draft even with clear worst record.

    Bird in the hand ...

    Tomorrow is not promised.
     
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  16. saleem

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    I agree tomorrow is not promised. Honestly, I'm only sold on Cade. He isn't coming to Houston.
     
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  17. ApacheWarrior

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    You won't hear me saying bring them here with top 4 pick. I'm consistent.

    Chances of tanking for Poalo Banchero, Chet Holmgren, others is lame.

    Silas wants to win now or be blamed for losses like John Lucas with
    Cavs/76ers. Porter Jr / Mobley -- Jalen Green want to play all out.
     
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  18. D-rock

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    Of course you're consistent.

    You believe that Charles Bassey, Luka Garza and Hunter Dickinson (wtf?) are better than Mobley, Holmgren, Banchero or Wembanyana.

    :eek::rolleyes:o_O

    If I didn't know better I'd swear you were trolling me.
     
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    Chet Holmgren looks like an amazing talent with a unicorn skillset, but he's listed as 7ft and 190 lbs. Damn. Kevin Martin had ten pounds on the guy when he played.

    Hopefully he adjusts his diet and tries to lift weights as he matures.

    Side note, a couple years ago he did this to Steph Curry at his SC Select Camp as a 17 year old high schooler and then blew up as a prospect.

     
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    Not better but good enough.

    Capela, Ayton, Brook Lopez are not better....but good enough to win a
    championship.

    You paint yourself into a corner that the only way to win a championship is to
    catch a unicorn or grab a leprechaun by the toe. Dwight Howard received a
    championship last season not as a unicorn but as a flawed big man that
    doesn't shoot 3's.

    One can lose sight of what may be most important by chasing glitz and glitter.
    The dull tasks of controlling the paint, rim protection, rebounding, boxing out
    can exceed in importance over, "Guard Skills" in a 7'0" footer.

    You are hoping, and as Mark Wahlberg said in the movie "Deepwater Horizon" hope aint
    a tactic. Not when you stick your arm in a hole and have a monster catfish clamp
    down on you."

    "You better have the right gear and equipment" (NBA personnel) if you are going up
    against a catfish like Embiid, KAT, Valanciunas, Vuc, Gobert. Neither is tanking for the
    number one pick two years in a row.

    Oops you got me railing against..... nevermind. Peace out D. Would never troll you. Respect
    you too much.

     
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