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(IG Live) Jalen Green on a potential KPJ-Green backcourt, "Kp know thats a scary backcourt"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaBeard, Jun 30, 2021.

  1. fchowd0311

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    He had two other when he won his mvps though. He didn't have Durant.
     
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    Again it was the posse as a whole that was dominating the NBA and not just Curry by himself. Prior to this season lots of people thought Curry couldn't carry a team and in a way he still hasn't proved he could carry a team since GSW didn't even make the playoffs.

    I mean apart from two other Allstars that squad had Bogut who was a former all star and Iguadala who was a perennial all star in the East so even then you can argue that squad technically still had 5 all stars. They broke the win season record for a reason, that squad was stacked top to bottom Curry or no Curry.
     
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    Why don’t y’all see that this guy is just a troll? He’s trying to argue against hard facts like we’re all idiots and the information isn’t freely available. This is what it looks like when you want to push your agenda at all costs and have no real interest in a true debate or discussion.
     
  4. fchowd0311

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    Look, to make things clear, Harden is better than Curry at carrying mediocre talent.

    But let's not pretend the GSWs before Durant was full of superstars. Green at his best was a borderline all-nba 3rd team talent and Thompson is a star level role player who can't really help carry a load as he isn't a ball handler. He needs a superstar pg to feed him in a good system to excel.

    Curry definitely "carried" those elite GSW teams before Durant arrived.
     
  5. D-rock

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    You didn't add "offensive" until I called out your lying ass.

    And vocal does not equate better player or system fit.

    Everyone knows about your narrative heavy drivel filled posting history.
     
  6. D-rock

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    Fchowd likes to talk out of his ass on things he has zero clue about.

    Internet makes doing your due diligence very easy but he does not care.

    He is all about misinformation, always has been.
     
  7. Dobbizzle

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    Which unicorns are dominating the league again? Porzingis? The mistake you made is thinking a unicorn means anything, it's fool's gold, a fantasy, a pipe dream. I'd rather draft a player that makes a difference in a way they can be the star player on a team than a "unicorn" that busts or never moves the needle like the many others people hold up draft after draft. Chasing unicorns like a preteen girl is not the best way to win at basketball.
     
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    It's almost like the Lakers didn't win the championship last season due to picking up AD....
     
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    Anthony Davis, the power forward who plays pretty much the same as power forwards have played since forever? I fail to see the point. Mobley is taller, scrawnier and a lot less talented. If Davis is a "unicorn" then the entire concept is nonsense, he's just a great power forward, nothing massively different than the 4's who played in the last 20 years.
     
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    In his career he's played 50/50 between PF/C and when The Ringer did their "Great Unicorn rankings" a few years back Anthony Davis was one of the 6 listed, ultimately ranking as #2 overall....so while YOU might not consider him to be one, most do. One area where I disagree is that they left off KD, who at 7 feet tall is absolutely a "unicorn" player.

    "Unicorn" players refers to specific blends of size, skill, and athleticism not normally seen among the taller NBA players. Mobley certainly counts as one.
     
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    My friend, it would be nice if you took some time to read the opinions that coach Brian Shaw (multiple NBA champion) has on Jalen Green. Have a nice day!

    https://rocketswire.usatoday.com/20...h-brian-shaw-sees-it-factor-with-jalen-green/
     
  12. Dobbizzle

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    OK then I'll put if a different way. AD's game is not dramatically different from most other great 4/5 players, he's a similar size, build and weight and he doesn't remotely play like a guard. Mobley is a skinny, tall center who can handle the ball a bit but is nothing special as a scorer or rebounder and does not remotely have NBA guard skills. However exactly is that the game changer we need? We might only get on top 3 pick in this entire rebuild and you all want to throw it away because a player is different from the norm in a way no center has so far been remotely successful. AD plays exactly like all the other bigs, Mobley has neither the physique nor the talent to bang inside. It's way too big gamble to take.
     
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    That's being overly harsh to Mobley, he's got better guard skills than Green, is the best defensive big in the draft, can shoot as well or better than Suggs, and has the highest overall upside in the draft and arguably the lowest bust factor among the next 3 after Cade.

    I never said Mobley was AD, the initial conversation was about "unicorns", KD doesn't play like AD either, but both are "unicorns".

    Adding a guy who can come in and competently switch 1-5 on defense while being a solid rim protector who could run an offense more effectively than some of the top guards in the draft is no small thing.
     
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    AD just won a ring last year or did you forget that? KD is also a unicorn and he has dominated the league for the past 9 yrs and is currently the best player in the NBA.

    The last superstar sg to win was Kobe so if you wanna talk precedent, superstar sgs never won anything either. Precedent dictates Cade is the one who will win a ring from this class not Green. It's a **** argument as Green also will not likely lead the team to a ring based on history.

    At least AD was seen as 1B option in the Lakers ring so a team did win at basketball with a unicorn just last year.

    P.S. Brook Lopez just scored 33 pts and about to lead Bucks to the finals so you fail even at ******** on him lmao.
     
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    Looks like you dont even understand what a unicorn is lmao.

    I suggest you dont argue with others on something you know nothing about in the future.
     
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    just a bit ago you were wondering if Green didn’t go to college because of grades issues. You don’t know him or anything about his personality … you just dont like him, which is fine.

    it’s just strange your mind went immediately to grades issues and not the $500k/$600k he got paid…. He’s going to be a top 3 pick and got paid … seems smart not dumb.

    Mobley having better guard skills than Green is one of the crazier takes I’ve seen on this site in a while.

    but then you followed it up with he can shoot better than Suggs which so far is demonstrably false.
     
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    Mobley's guard skills are certainly not better than Greens. You guys are wild.
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    Will this is a take.
     
  19. roslolian

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    They arent full of superstars they are full of 3 all stars with a deep ass roster. Thats more talent than any other team including Cavs cuz Cavs are top heavy and Klove and Irving are barely better than Green and esp Klay.


    Take out Curry put in Kemba, Kyrie, Cp3, Luka or Lilliard. Hell even Mike Conley or Lowry would be enough. Barring injuries that GSW squad will still win a ring cuz they were so much stronger than everyone else. They won a ring vs Lebron and injured KLove and Irving lul that aint exactly hard wtf.

    Theres like a dozen star creators/distributors in the NBA, Curry does have the distinction of being the best shooter in history but he never dominated the NBA as much as his team dominated the NBA. This year was his chance to prove doubters wrong and he couldnt even reach playoffs so thats his legacy, Curry proved he cant stand on his own and his accolades are a product of his team rather than himself apart from his shooting prowess.
     
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