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Jalen Green should be the pick

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Pringles09, Jun 22, 2021.

  1. dmoneybangbang

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    I mean how can I defend against someone's subjective opinion about what a player will absolutely be..... Once you've fallen in love.... it's just becomes too emotional.

    I may change my mind and decide Mobley is worth the risk, do you have the ability to change your mind?
     
  2. dmoneybangbang

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    Well he's not a PG, but a scorer. You're right it's not his game, but "whatsoever" is a bit extreme. I see no reason why Green can't be at Porter's playmaking level with two years of the NBA under his belt.
     
  3. D-rock

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    Because you're nit picking adjectives/adverbs instead of discussing the basketball points.

    Porter is a natural playmaker, ball handler and is already a better defender.

    Green is not nearly as skilled or productive in any of those areas so what logic supports that he will surpass Porter in any of those areas in near future????
     
  4. Salvy

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    If Mobley can give us a Championship then Green can give us minimum 3 within the first two years here in Houston... Easy choice for Stone.. We are lucky...
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    It would be him learning skills he doesn't have at all, sure it could happen, but it would be like saying Mobley could be shooting 40% from 3 in 2 years.

    Those are possible, and they'd be awesome if they happened, but you can't just assume they'll happen.

    But like you said, it's not his game, he's not a combo guard that is capable of running an offense, he's a traditional SG who can call his own number and score....and not much more. Still super valuable, but not as valuable as someone who can do that plus run an offense.
     
  6. dmoneybangbang

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    With two years of the NBA under his belt.....So again... we are comparing a NBA Sophmore with someone who hasn't played in the NBA yet?
     
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    When he was playing Green completely off the court and being by far the best player in the G league he was a 20 year old kid with 50 NBA games under his belt.
     
  8. dmoneybangbang

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    LOL. There you go again....

    Why would Green approving his ball handling and playmaking be akin to Mobley shooting 40%?
     
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  9. Rockets4Life13

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    Yes but Porter is also currently better at all those things than Cade Cunningham and yet he's considered to be the #1 pick so whats your point?

    Let's not act like the guy we take at #2 needs to be better than Porter now because for all the problems he may present to some people, he is damn good at basketball and still not even close to his ceiling. Doesn't mean that Green can't be damn good either.

    Mobley also isn't even close to Wood's level right now, does that mean he's bad?

    I don't get this kind of logic from the Mobley crowd. Y'all going through all kinds of mental gymnastics to say that Green isn't the right choice because you prefer Mobley.

    As I've said before, there's legitimate arguments for both sides. It's just down to what one prefers.
     
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    But Porter's ball skills were identified quite clearly his lone season with USC.

    Green's playmaking or lack thereof has also been clearly identified.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    Well, Green has no PG skills, so him developing them to the point where he's on KPJ's level is very similar to a 30% 3 point shooter becoming a 40% 3 point shooter.

    Either can happen, but they require a ton of work and aren't that likely.
     
  12. dmoneybangbang

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    LOL... completely off the court. The fact that you have to resort to such hyperbole is telling.

    KPJ being so good shouldn't preclude the Rockets from taking Green if they think is the best pick available.
     
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    Porter was the 30th pick, you are comparing apples to oranges. Green is the future of the NBA....
     
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  14. dmoneybangbang

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    Based on what? Porter averaged a negative assist to turnover ratio at USC..... does that scream playmaker to you?
     
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    Mobley is clearly a better defender than Wood RIGHT NOW.

    CLEARLY.

    Green is not better offensively than Porter right now.

    But he is projected to be ONE DAY.
     
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    Stats do not tell whole story, you know this.

    Watch both players in HS.

    Heck, read their draft reports.
     
  17. dmoneybangbang

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    No. Green improving his playmaking isn't the same as Mobley being a 40% 3pt shooter. That's just some arbitrary nonsense.
     
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  18. dmoneybangbang

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    And Green was a much more touted prospect coming out of HS.
     
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    Wood's main weakness defensively is getting bullied by bigger C's down low. Mobley might be even worse at guarding strong C's.

    Mobley is good defensively in the NCAA. I'll wait for him to prove it in the NBA.

    Still don't really get your overall point as to how that makes mobley the "right" or Green the "wrong" pick.
     
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  20. Bobbythegreat

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    .....it's true though. KPJ was averaging 24/7/6 as by far the best player in the G league and he put up 28/10/9 against Green's Ignite. Green managed 22 points and 3 assists.

    How do you describe that?

    I'm not saying that KPJ being good is a reason to not take Green, I think Green would work very well next to KPJ because with KPJ there Green won't have to run the offense and he can focus on what he's good at, scoring.

    The reason I'm for Mobley is because I see his ceiling as being higher and his fit with the Rockets being even better.

    Make no mistake though, both players would do well here though.
     

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