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Critical Race Theory.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by jiggyfly, May 17, 2021.

  1. NewRoxFan

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    There is so much "WTF" in this...

     
  2. KingCheetah

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    Another charter school grad.
     
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  3. edwardc

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    I agree with you on that i have stated it so many time and will again now WPE.
     
  4. krosfyah

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    Correct. The guy on the left IS talking about an agenda ...e.g...an actual issue. Isn't that the point of politics? It's like you pay money to go watch the Rockets and then complain they are only playing a game. Mmmmkay. That's what they do.

    (BTW, the right ALSO very much has guns as part of their agenda ...and that's fine).

    The issue for the guy on the right he stereotypes people because he has no empathy. As such, he finds the differences of opinion as a existential threat. Taken to the extreme, that's when the "purging" begins.

    BTW, since you brought up history... 9x outta 10, its conservatives/fundamentalists guilty of purging. Ever heard of the KKK or perhaps Nazis? I'm sure you can find some examples of progressives that went too far... but, historically, it's almost always conservatives.
     
  5. Os Trigonum

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution
     
  6. krosfyah

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    Funny, I literally had that exact same wiki page open.

    A revolt to fight against persecution is not the same thing as purging. Who has the power? When those in power are murdering the powerless, that's called cleansing. When the powerless rise up to fight against oppression, in a war where people die, that is a revolt. That is how America was born. Like the difference between art and p*rn, harder to define, but you know it when you see it.

    btw, it's the French Revolution influenced Thomas Jefferson to advocate for separation of church/state. The revolt happened because conservative religious leaders and the affluent never empathized with the have-nots causing a lot of unnecessary suffering.
     
  7. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Yes, those far right conservatives like Mao, Stalin, and Pol Pot.
     
  8. fchowd0311

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    This country however has more serious threats from the right. The US had a legitimate Nazi sympathizer movement German Nazis taking cues from and analyzing Jim Crow systems in various American states.

    Is there a legitimate series contingent of Americans with clout that endorse Maoist or Stalinist rhetoric? Thousands of Americans were card carrying members of the KKK with thousands upon thousands more who were sympathetic to their cause but didn't like their means.
     
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  9. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    This country doesn't really have any serious threats of purges. Anyone worried that the United States is going to start rounding up its citizens and killing them is probably a kook.
     
  10. krosfyah

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    Seriously? In this country, Trump ran on a campaign of purging "illegals" that resulted in conditions that looked a lot like internment camps, which also happened in America.

    In Arizona, that sheriff guy, forgot his name, intentionally incarcerated inmates in tents during the summer in the AZ dessert.

    In my opinion, those are two recent examples of a "serious threat" that if left unchecked could easily go next level. Many people suffered unnecessarily ...and that was very intentional.
     
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  11. VooDooPope

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    Not to mention how many times people and politicians have said the only good democrat is a dead democrat. AND never mind them trying to purge votes and restricting voting to actually PURGE democracy from our country.
     
  12. NewRoxFan

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  13. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Crossing the border outside of a designated border crossing or outside of a designated port of entry is illegal. Detention if caught is perfectly appropriate.
    His name was Joe Arpaio.
    What kind of dessert was he keeping them in? If it was a big bowl of ice cream, that could help with the heat. ;)
    If this is the evidence in favor of a purge being imminent, I think we are all pretty safe.
     
  14. krosfyah

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    It's not the enforcement that is worrisome. It's the intent and/or motivation.

    Trump generalizing Mexicans as rapists is a clear window into his underlying intent. If you have bad intent, or as some say "bad faith negotiations", then the manor in how enforcement happens will be a swing and a miss ...which is exactly what we saw when they prioritized separation of kids as a means of deterrence.

    Funny. :)

    Treating humans (much less our own citizens) with respect, even if they are criminal, is an American core value. All men have the right to Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness. Of course there are consequences but do so with respect.

    Interesting choice of words. You said "we are all pretty safe". Who is "we"?
    Do these people feel safe?
    1. immigrant women that got involuntary hysterectomies'?
    2. children brought illegally as infants and are now adults?
    3. children separated from their parents at the border?
    4. black people that get pulled over by police for a busted tail light?
    5. Asian-Americans walking to the store?




    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
     
  15. jiggyfly

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    The Maddening Critical Race Theory Debate

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/28/opinion/critical-race-theory.html

    My personal place is mainly anti-anti-critical race concept, in that I disagree with some concepts related to C.R.T., particularly round limiting speech, however am extraordinarily alarmed by efforts to demonize and ban it. There’s definitely some materials that critics lump in with C.R.T. that strikes me as ridiculous and dangerous. I’ve seen the risible coaching for college directors calling worship of the written phrase “white supremacy tradition.” There’s a model of antiracism primarily based on white folks’s narcissistic self-flagellation that appears to me to perform little or no.

    But I’m extremely skeptical that many public colleges are instructing that “each white youngster and household at this time is invariably complicit” in white supremacy. Rather, the marketing campaign towards crucial race concept is doing precisely what Rufo wished it to: taking inchoate anger about what’s usually derided as wokeness and directing it onto public schooling. In some methods, it’s just like the marketing campaign towards intercourse schooling, the place conservative activists would both cherry-pick or invent lurid anecdotes to attempt to discredit the entire mission.

    At my very own youngsters’ pretty progressive Brooklyn public college, they had been assigned an age-appropriate ebook about police shootings, “Something Happened in Our Town,” which I appreciated as a result of it helped me clarify final summer season’s demonstrations to them. They haven’t, to the most effective of my data, been ordered to admit their white privilege.

    I emailed Bonnie Snyder of the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education to ask if we’re outliers. FIRE performs an fascinating position within the debate over C.R.T., as a result of it each defends college students and lecturers from left-wing overreach and fights C.R.T. bans on free speech grounds. Snyder appears sympathetic to Linker’s view; she has a ebook popping out within the fall denouncing classroom indoctrination. So, I requested her, the place is that this indoctrination occurring?

    “We’ve observed that the issue of unbalanced curricula appears most superior in elite, prosperous non-public colleges after which additionally in so-called public-private excessive colleges in prosperous areas,” she stated, although she believes it’s spreading to extra common colleges. Even in case you agree along with her definition of “unbalanced curricula,” it’s onerous to see how one thing occurring largely in rarefied liberal milieus explains the fights over C.R.T. breaking out everywhere in the nation.

    Families within the rich Dallas suburb of Southlake, for instance, revolted after the district tried to deal with nakedly racist incidents, together with a Snapchat video of laughing white college students utilizing a racial slur. Florida simply barred public colleges from instructing “American historical past as one thing apart from the creation of a brand new nation primarily based largely on common ideas acknowledged within the Declaration of Independence.”

    A current Time journal cowl story in regards to the battle over crucial race concept featured a Missouri mom frightened in regards to the discussions of id in her son’s ninth-grade classroom. The instance she confirmed a reporter was an English task asking college students to replicate on the “assumptions that individuals make about folks within the totally different teams you belong to.” This will not be precisely a Maoist wrestle session. The kind of anti-racist schooling that’s sparked a nationwide backlash isn’t radically leftist. It’s elementary.
     
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    Thanks for copying and pasting random material you found on the internet.

    So what's YOUR opinion?
     
  19. jiggyfly

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    If you actually read the thread you can see my opinion in several places.

    The material I posted is hardly random do you have comprehension issues?
     
  20. JuanValdez

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    Read Color of Compromise recently, a history of the role of the church in abetting slavery, segregation, Jim Crow, and the alt right. Pretty good book.
     

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