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Jalen Green should be the pick

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Pringles09, Jun 22, 2021.

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    And USC played in one of the softer conferences and had one of the easiest strength of schedules among the top 25 NCAA teams.

    The G League is just objectively better than NCAA, plus they play NBA rules. Although they do rule experimenting for the NBA in the G League.
     
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    Thanks for posting!
     
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    I reallllly hope Jalen is 6'5 - 6'6 and not 6'3 (which is how he looks in all these videos I'm watching.
     
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    Of course Mobley won’t go to the G league. What an absurd notion. If Wiseman didn’t spend a second in the G league playing for a much better Warriors team, why would Mobley?
     
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    Ah yes, and they still made it to the elite 8 largely on the shoulders of Mobley.....How'd the Ignite do?

    Again, when you tell me about how great the G league is, it makes it sound like you haven't watched it much or for that long.
     
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    any G-League team vs any college team, who wins that game?
     
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    I watched a lot of G league this season and I wasn’t incredibly impressed. Is the average G league athlete better than the average college player? Of course. But the G league runs like a high level rec league. There doesn’t seem to be many set plays, a lot of hero ball, and little defense. I don’t know how to gleam much from it other than identifying pure athletic talent.
     
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    It depends on the college team. If it's a top tier college team, probably the college team wins.

    Take out the bottom 12 teams in the NCAA tournament and replace them with the 12 G league teams and a college team still wins the NCAA tournament.
     
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    And they got absolutely demolished when they went up Gonzaga who had size and speed. Mobley was effectively neutralized as a defender and scorer and USC fell apart. Isiah Mobley was the best player on USC that night. Gonzaga's traditional center, Timme, picked apart USC.

    It makes me think you don't understand how playing against the closet thing to the NBA competition/rules is better than not playing against weaker competition and non NBA rules.
     
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    Did you watch much G league? Sure it follows NBA “rules,” but it’s nothing like the NBA.
     
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    Sure, USC didn't have much beyond Mobley....who was "nutralized" which apparently means putting up 19/7

    The point wasn't that Mobley could make any random college team the best in the world....but he got them pretty far. The point was that the G league is a glorified rec league, even if they play with NBA rules. The talent and level of competition is higher at the top colleges than in the G league where typically only scrubs and has beens end up.

    I think you might be a prisoner of the moment here. The G league has never been anything more than a glorified rec league, there have been dozens of players not good enough to be a benchwarmer in the NBA who have absolutely dominated the G league.
     
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    I did a bit. You are right, it's played more like a pick up game but you are going against stronger competition and playing with NBA rules like 3 point line. I still think it's better competition than NCAA.
     
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    Super marketable star in the making. I'm already preparing myself for the though that Detroit going to end up going with him. Of course i wanted Cade for the longest time at #1, but i want that exciting marketable star to represent the H now.
     
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    Wrong Mobley... Evan put up 17/5 and didn't attempt a single 3 but went 7/8 from the line.

    I think you might have fallen in love with a prospect instead of objectively looking at it. It's pretty much a consensus that Green and Mobley are in the same tier.

    At this point it's splitting hairs and I favor taking the safer pick in Green than the high variance pick in Mobley.
     
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    I'm not arguing that they aren't on the same tier as prospects. Both have quite a bit to work on to get where they want to be. The safe pick is the guy who is already an elite defender with a mix of length and speed to go with decent shooting for his position and very good passing and creating for others.

    IMO the more risky route is gong with the traditional SG who has no PG skills whatsoever meaning he can't run an offense and he's a traffic cone on defense. Now, sure he can call his own number and has tremendous upside as a scorer possibly one day being a 20 points a game type player, but as of now he's terribly one dimensional.

    If we end up with Green, I'll fully support it, but I'll also immediately be looking forward to a top 5 pick next year because we wont be winning many games with a frontcourt that weak.
     
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    We won't be winning many games next year with the project Mobley either. We can get some cheap length in FA if we actually cared about winning..... which we shouldn't be.

    I just disagree. An elite defender against weaker competition (NCAA vs G League) and a weak conference/strength of schedule is risky to me. I saw how Green's bread and butter (offense) went from high school to G League and it's more impressive than what what Mobley did.
     
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    The G-League is an offense only league. I haven’t watched enough of Green to know how great he is, but Porter was better offensively in the G-League than Green. Very few on this board are anointing him the next great thing, so why Green? I’d rather put my money on guys that had to play in a disciplined league that winning meant something. Give me Cade or Mobley.
     
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    cool guy. Seems a bit slow though. Im sold
     

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