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CBO: $15 minimum wage hike would cost 1.4M jobs

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Amiga, Feb 9, 2021.

  1. jiggyfly

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    I said what?

    I never said that and only have said Bernie's messaging would not translate to a general election.

    You sure are spinning fantasies today.
     
  2. dmoneybangbang

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    Only you know why you used "slave wages" and defend that term. Maybe I am wrong, but you rhetoric is on record and I think it supports my hypothesis.
     
  3. fchowd0311

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    Slave wages refer to wages for people who work full time and can't afford basic essentials that can result in things like eviction. That's a slave wage. It has nothing to do with thinking Americans are helpless.

    You are all over the place. You claimed that I believe Americans are helpless because I think that grassroots leftist media, think tanks and lobbyists don't have the same influence on society and our law makers as ones funded by the world's largest companies and hedge funds.

    Do you think Americans are helpless because small businesses can't compete with Amazon or Walmart?
     
  4. dmoneybangbang

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    Slaves are helpless. You should come up with a better term(s) to describe the theme(s) you are trying to communicate.

    I think we lost a balance between private and public, but I don't think Amerians helpless.
     
  5. fchowd0311

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    You said you think I believe Americans are helpless because I believe progressive grassroots media, lobbying and think tanks don't have the same pull as corporate media, lobbying and think tanks.
     
  6. dmoneybangbang

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    I think it goes further than that, as that's just an example. Your whole personal ideology seems to be based on helplessness which is why you latch onto "slave wages". Slaves are helpess, americans are not. I think Progressives such as yourself have to believe people are that helpless.

    Someone mentioned semantics, but you and I have different perspective of humanity that goes further than "slave wages".
     
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    The whole talk in previous pages about slave wages just made me think of this bit in the song. I've got nothing of real value to add other than this bit of humor.

     
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  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Unions need to make a big comeback..

    DD
     
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    Don't be a stupid person.

    DD
     
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  11. SamFisher

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    The union should make a comeback and stomp all over the confederates again.

    Support the Jan 6 commission.

    @basso
     
  12. deb4rockets

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    The government is skewed to the wealthy when billionaires add 1,620,000,000,000 to their wealth in 13 months and minimum wage stays at $7.25 for 12 years.

    Try counting to 1,620,000,000,000.
    You can't do it.

    It will take you 51,369.8 years to count that far if you count 1 digit a second. Fact!
     
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  13. Phillyrocket

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    It will trickle down though. Reagan I mean Bush Jr., I mean Trump said so! Any decade now and it will happen!
     
  14. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I believe in low income taxes, but really high estate taxes. I think we need to reset the playing field every generation.
     
  15. SamFisher

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    Genius CEOs have new genius idea to solve "labor shortage"



    No wonder they make 1 gazillion times more!
     
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  16. jiggyfly

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    How can you say **** like this with a straight face.

    Darnall said better tipping policies — not raises and bonuses — could help hotels and restaurants retain workers amid the US labor shortage. The US Chamber of Commerce has declared the shortage a "national economic emergency."

    Some hotels have been raising salaries and offering bonuses, but Darnall said that this has "never been the solution" for hiring challenges in the hospitality industry. "If somebody pays a dollar more then somebody else is going to match that," Darnall said.

    "I call that an unsustainable competitive advantage. In other words, you're at a competitive advantage for an hour, until somebody decides to match it," he said
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  17. SamFisher

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    It's hilarious - " the supply-demand curve has never been applicable to hotel workers!" " Equilibrium prices are fiction!"

    Like, yeah obviously if you deep dive into classical micro and labor markets and the empirical side you can poke some holes with respect to externalities and actual behavior, but not on a "markets getting to equilibrium is unfair to me personally so therefore..." line of drunk or dumb CEO reasoning.
     
  18. Space Ghost

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    Can we stop calling it a US Labor shortage.

    'member when people said UBI is awesome and would help lift all people out of poverty and deep down, everyone still would work even if the .gov paid them enough to live?

    Service economies suck. Its where countries go to die.
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    So what do we do when all service jobs are automated as it is inevitable as no matter what, the initial investment cost and maintenance cost of automated machines will always be cheaper than human capital and corporations are always looking to reduce cost?

    Have reproduction limits? Forced abortions? Eliminate children who's iqs limit them to only low wage service and labor jobs? Ban automation research and development progress and its use in labor in order to create an artificial labor market?

    Sincerely asking for a pragmatic solution here.
     
  20. Space Ghost

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    Bring back manufacturing? Not the 1920's billowing smoke stack kind. The high tech kind that requires highly skilled operators to build, maintain and repair.

    Unfortunately our whole education system is in massive decay where sports and woke politics is more important than learning a real trade.

    We have a whole generational loss in manufacturing skills and knowledge. Most Americans haven't a clue on macro global trade and finance. All they care about is not leave their house to get food or supplies. We have truly become a degenerate society.
     

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