CBS Mock draft just said Rockets picking Suggs LOL

When you already have KPJ, you don't need a guy like Suggs who does the same sort of thing only he's less athletic and further behind him when it comes to progressing as a shooter.

If it's a guard, it has to be Green.

 

50/33/76 shooting splits ... YIKES!

 

This is stupid. Just bc kpj is here by no means do you not select a player. The rockets are absolutely still trying to find a building block because they still have none right now. Nothing is set in stone with this team when it comes to players. Good players learn how to play together and that’s how you separate who really impacts winning and who doesn’t. Going into the draft saying we have kpj so stay away from guards is flat out nonsense

 

Suggs is a superior defender and overall prospect, and I'm not sure we can necessarily assume Porter is ahead of him as a shorter. He shot better in college than Suggs did, but he has not adjusted to the 3-point line well as a 32% career 3-point shooter in the NBA. I would not be shocked in the slightest to see Suggs come out and shoot a higher percentage from 3 this season than Porter or at least long-term in their careers. He's more disciplined, has a higher basketball IQ and will likely be a more efficient scorer and distributor at the NBA level.

That's not saying I necessarily would pick Suggs over Green or Mobley given the choice. I wouldn't. But if you told me the Rockets could trade Porter Jr. for Suggs right now, I'd do it in a heartbeat. I also think it's possible those two would play well next to each other, as they bring different elements to the table. Basically, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of them taking Suggs, nor would I assume that KPJ is necessarily a franchise cornerstone at this point.

 

...with a 59.5% TS%. Those shooting splits aren't that bad if you have a good shot selection, which Suggs does. Dude is already an efficient scorer without above average 3-point shooting, and most young guards and wings don't possess that OR a legit 3-point shot when they enter the league. I don't think it's unrealistic to think he could develop into at least an average 3-point shooter, and if he's getting to the rim and shooting average or better from the line, he's going to be an efficient scorer at the NBA level.

 

If the team was good and could use a solid point guard, yeah take Suggs. But that's not where we are.

 

Granted Suggs is better defensively, but I disagree with the rest. As an overall prospect, KPJ is pretty far ahead of Suggs in just about all other areas.

KPJ has him on athleticism, size, shooting, and we've seen it all in the NBA already. We've seen KPJ get triple doubles and 50 point games against NBA competition, I don't think we'll be seeing that from Suggs any time soon if ever.

When you have a better version of a player already, you don't draft the inferior version. It just doesn't make sense to.

Also, if guys like KPJ and Wood aren't "building blocks" then guys like Suggs REALLY aren't.

 

It doesn’t matter if the team is already good. A player like him who impacts winning at a high level which he has shown thus far can absolutely be a piece for the rockets. Seems a lot of folks are so sure the other two are home runs or that’s what they’re being told. When that isn’t the for sure case at all. There’s levels to this.

 

Kpj isn’t a better version of Suggs and there’s absolutely ways they can complement each other. It makes plenty of sense

kpj and wood not being building blocks has nothing to with Suggs. You could plug green/Mobley in Suggs name using that logic which didn’t make any sense. The rockets are searching for players. It doesn’t matter what position it is right now

 

Suggs is a bad pick at 2. Only way we should get Suggs is if we trade down to 4.

 

Suggs reminds me of Trae Young in terms of the intensity and focus on his face as he plays at high speed. It's the "it" factor.

 

I don't see how they could complement each other given that neither can really play off ball Green would complement a KPJ/Suggs type because Green would thrive off-ball.

When I was talking about KPJ and Wood being building blocks, my point was that if those two aren't considered "building blocks" then you wouldn't consider an inferior player like Suggs to be one either. My honest opinion is that all 3 could be, just that there's no reason to go with a redundant player who isn't necessarily superior to what you already have.

For example, if you already have Nikola Jokic, you wouldn't pick Mobley over Green or Suggs assuming you needed guard depth. Making a redundant pick is wasteful unless you think that pick has a much higher ceiling. I don't see Suggs having a higher ceiling than KPJ.

 

Suggs is very capable of playing off ball and KPJ isn't even a pure pg so he too can play off and look for scoring opportunities. Suggs is more of a pure pg than he is. And you're severely overrating kpj just to try and diminish suggs. That's not how it works

Off-Ball Offense
In a team with multiple ball-handlers and one of the top post scores in college basketball, Suggs didn’t have the chance to monopolize possession of the ball as much as you’d expect to for someone who will end up drafted in the top five – despite logging a healthy 24.8% usage rate.

As a result, he had a fair number of opportunities to prove his worth away from the ball.

Suggs has shown to be a smart cutter, attacking space behind the defense on the weak-side and offering himself as a target to play above the rim as a target for lobs – assisted on 30.6% of his 98 makes at the basket.

He is a capable shot-maker on spot-ups but not much more than just that and, despite the occasional long-range bomb coming to the ball for a hand-off or drifting around the wing, hasn’t yet developed a whole lot of versatility to his release – hitting just one-third of his 104 three-point shots last season, at a pace of 4.8 such attempts per 40 minutes.

You just repeated what was posted previously as far as building blocks. If suggs isn't, then mobley/green aren't either with that logic.

Jokic is obviously a keeper and mvp. You obviously don't pick the same player who plays the same position. Jokic wasn't considered a keeper at one point. I guess you're forgetting denver had jokic and nurkic and played them both in the same lineup. Then they traded Nurkic away, after jokic separated himself

 

You cant tolerate multiple "playmakers" on your team with sketchy shooting splits - KPJ is already erratic enough. I'd have to also say that while Suggs is a better defender, he's not a polished passer on KPJs level - yet.

falls down to more redundancy in selecting BPA players when you already have that type of player on the roster. Draws out rebuilds and doesnt maximize existing talent and chemistry.

 

Doesn’t matter if you have “it” factor if you don’t have what Curry and Trae Young have which is elite shooting ability. Suggs isn’t even an average shooter and that’s not something you want to gamble on.

 

If he knew how to shoot then I'd think he could play off-ball, but as of now, he can't.

Either way, the point is that he's a redundant lesser version of what is already on the team, that's why if it were a tie between him and guys like Green and Mobley.....and IMO it's not, then you'd give the nod to one of those two. Given that it's not even a tie, that Suggs is IMO behind BOTH of those guys, the conversation is unnecessary.

 

He won't help as much as a #2 should if his playing time is limited , arguably to the third guy off the bench.

 

you keep trying to say he can't shoot. When in reality he can. He actually has a beautiful jumpshot form and release. you can die on that hill if you want to but suggs is already a solid shooter. Whatever told you he is broken or can't shoot at all is flat out nonsense

He isn't redundant nor is he a lesser version. The rockets have every reason to find a player for the future and it doesn't matter what position they play. They have the worst team in the league. There are no proven winners on this team long term

 

Anyone of the 3 guys they will possibly choose will see limited time off the bat. It isn't specific to suggs

 

Only player Im moving KPJ for is Cade .. simple as that. Jalen Suggs does not move the needle and a supplementary player should never be taken at 2 in a draft where there are better prospects.

I hate overlapping Mobley and Wood too, but I'd take Mobley in a heartbeat over Suggs at 2. No brainer.