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How Systemic Racism and Implicit Bias Affects African Americans

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Reeko, Jun 4, 2020.

  1. fchowd0311

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    No by Texas standards, FBISD, Katy, Plano etc are wealthy school districts. Not HISD.
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Exactly. Schools are just fine. There are advantages that come with wealth but that's not the problem with racial disparity in education achievement
     
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  3. HillBoy

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    Nice picture of Hakeem but if you REALLY want to argue your point, I'd pick someone other than Michael Jackson to use as reference material. Just saying... His lyrics are nice and all that but they're completely irelevant to the issue being discussed. Black people don't have the option to choose to be defined by the color of their skin - that choice is made for them by society.
     
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  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Do you think I would make this up. I'm talking official stature judged by the state
    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/ne...istricts-forfeiting-funds-on-rise-9227231.php


    Thanks to rising local property values, the Houston district has been deemed so property wealthy that the nine-figure payment is necessary under state law. The so-called Robin Hood system requires property-rich districts to forfeit local tax dollars to help those districts with less property wealth.
     
  5. JumpMan

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    It is the people, mostly students, of the school that make the school, not the classrooms, the furniture, the technology, or any of that stuff that is provided through funding.

    You could swap the students and the students going to the broken down school would still outperform the students from the broken down school because you can't swap the motivation, importance for their education, respect for authority, and appreciation of the opportunity that students have or do not have from home before they even step foot inside of a school.

    That said, families also strive to earn more to have better publicly funded facilities like schools, parks, roads, emergency services, etc. There are levels to this as the talking heads are saying, so there are wealthy people that would never send their kids to any public school, too.

    We don't even have to talk about college or even high-school graduation rates; students from the schools we are talking about leave public schools reading at a 4th-grade level. That has nothing to do with funding or ability. Once we take care of basics like that, then we could talk about why few students from these schools are attending the best colleges or graduating with STEM degrees or whatever high-level goals that we should have, but can't get to until other issues are resolved.
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I posted in another thread that 67% of black kids live in single parent homes

    42% of Hispanic kids

    25% of white kids

    Until we focus on this issue, cyclical poverty will persist. Period

    I totally agree that kids aren't learning the basics before we talk about teachers with advanced degrees and certifications
     
  7. Jugdish

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    Sure, but I don't see the relevance of the question. Public schools are public.
     
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    You really don't understand how the education system works. What do you think differentiates schools with less funding than those with lots of funding?
     
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    But public schools are not open to all of the public so they aren't exactly public. They are restricted to certain people in their vicinity who get priority, usually exclusivity, over outsiders. In that way, it is an important question because how much a family earns does and should influence where the children live, where they go to school, and who they go to school with.
     
  10. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    He is a teacher and you don't understand what he is saying. These kids aren't learning the basics. That isn't about specialized teachers. You don't need those teachers to teach basics

    What you do need to teach basics is a kid with engaged parents
     
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    Property taxes. If not, illuminate me, O wise one.
     
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  12. tinman

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    Parents are important

    I understand people want to blame kermit the frog and gone with the wind and pepe le pew for things
    but parents who don't emphasize education, then their kids most likely won't care either
     
  13. tinman

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    Lots of pure fans are successful products of public schools, even HISD

    they end up being contributing citizens as well as Contributing Members on Clutchfans and not cheapskates
     
  14. Jugdish

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    Do you think we should aim to have each public school provide the same level of resources and programs as every other public school?
     
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    We pay taxes for schools
    it's up to parents, teachers and kids to make it successful
    that 'system' works if all 3 work together
    @pgabriel
     
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    I mean the differences in the educational experiences of a child. I'm curious to know how you imagine what a child going to a wealthy school vs a poorer one.
     
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    If you've been in the classroom in a poor inner city school, you'd understand that engaged parents is just the tip of the iceberg.
     
  18. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I'm sure rats are running around everywhere.
     
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    That would be the least of the issues
     
  20. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    HISD. has a bunch of schools rebuilt in the last fifteen years

    Minority kids perform lower in the wealthy school districts

    Stop bullshitting around the main issue

    67% of black kids grow up in single parent homes

    25% white kids

    I don't get liberal denial about the overwhelming problem. Nothing will change until this changes. Excuse my language but you guys refusal to admit the obvious is incredibly frustrating

    You guys are caught up in trying not to blame the broken homes in an attempt to be sympathetic. Its not helping
     

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