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Dame Lillard "I'm too solid for this weird azz era"

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Pringles09, Mar 31, 2021.

  1. CK Johnson

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    It'd be hilarious if Dame gets traded but misses the playoffs and the Blazers make the playoffs.
     
  2. ExTexanNowEastCoast

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    Yeah but can JH13 put out mediocre rap albums, get overly tattooed, and chuck up half court threes that give Barkely and Kenny Smith er**$#tions? I don't think so. s/
     
  3. blahblehblah

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    Dame is unlikely to be traded anytime soon imo. He's under contract until 2025. He's beloved in the city and organization and he's shown little indication of wanting to move on. More importantly, I don't see any obviously beneficial package that would make sense for both parties

    I'm personally not the biggest stay where you were drafted guy, but I did appreciated that dirk, kobe and Duncan all played their entire career with one team. However I'm also a huge proponent of player movement, since the Kawhi, AD, PG, LeBron, CP3 and other moves have been super entertaining imo.

    Players moving in free agency is great in my view. I love the FA period nearly as much as the season. Players requesting to be traded is also fine in my book. Just don't think your entitled to it and f*** off your team and fans while doing so. Act like a professional like Kobe and Hakeem and others while doing so.

    Despite the postseason disappointment, lifelong Portland fans can at least take solace in the fact that Dame won't f*** them over like other "superstars" since he is "too solid."

    At least for now.

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  4. jiggyfly

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    Can you imagine the **** Harden would be receiving if he lost to a team without its 2nd best player and a key rotation piece while his team was mostly healthy?

    That Portland team would be better than any team Harden had in Houston apart from the 65 win team.
     
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  5. jiggyfly

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    LOL

    How will Harden be AI-esque but not Dillard?

    Harden has done far more.

    And AI is a ****ing legend so how is that a bad thing?
     
  6. blahblehblah

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    No need for imagination. Harden lost to teams without their BEST players in 2015-16 (Curry) and 2016-17 (Kawhi/parker).
     
  7. jiggyfly

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    And it has overshadowed his entire career unlike Dame.

    Why is that?
     
  8. Reeko

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    his current supporting cast is better than what we had in 16-17, and Harden squeezed 55 wins and a 2nd round appearance out of the roster, but that’s none of my business

    I remember when Harden averaged 35 against GS, but it didn’t matter and he choked because we lost game 6 at home with no KD

    well I see Lillard putting up numbers this series, but still not able to beat Denver missing Murray and Barton, and losing a game 6 at home as they got outscored 28-14 in the 4th quarter

    Will the dumbass Harden haters keep that same energy they had for James with Lillard? I think we already know the answer.

    *sips tea
     
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    Rockets were a dysfunctional 8th seed with zero chemistry that made the playoffs on the last game of the regular season so u can toss 15-16 out...Rockets were still clearly a worse team than GS even without Steph

    The Spurs were without Kawhi for 1 game. The Nuggets were without Murray and Barton the entire series, and Harden at least got that 16-17 roster to 55 wins and past the 1st round. Dame going home in the 1st round for the 4th time in 5 years.
     
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  10. blahblehblah

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    Dame isn't quite on the same level as Harden.

    But perhaps more importantly, he is better at providing pivotal playoff moments and memories to the audience. Casuals and even media personalities laud his playoff clutchness and abilities, despite the fact that it's empirically not accurate.

    The reason is dame comes through every now and then on the biggest stage and biggest moments of certain series. True or not, fair or not, deservingly or not - these flash points of greatness easily overshadow his other mundane (and frequent subpar) performances.

    Harden on the other hand has had very little positive flashpoints. He's been one of the best players in the league the past decade, but he doesn't have a pivotal playoff performance or moment (aside from the one vs Spurs while in okc).

    In other words... A few spectacular games in a game 6 or 7. A few game winners/buzzer beaters or poster shots with everyone watching will go a long way.
     
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  11. Caesar

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    lol as in KAT for Lillard? Why would Lillard want to go to Minny? IDK if he has a no trade clause but i dont see Portland doing him dirty like that if Dame didn't want to play there. Now, if it's KAT for CJ+ more, why would Minny do that?

    Who has the right pieces to trade for Lillard on that contract? Guys not a free agent until 2025. Knicks just aint happening. Westbrook going to be bouncing around the league because he's got the only albatross contract for a player who still brings fans in their seats to watch him get his little triple doubles and you can combine with a ton of picks. Lillard/Beal. Westbrook/CJ. Idk. I don't see anything out there.

    Dame is about to be 31. Like someone said, CJ should have been traded years ago and Stotts should have been gone as well. Now, it's kind of a crossroads position where no deals really make sense outside of trying to mix it up with a near = or lesser player but better fit for the roster?
     
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    He has had pivotal playoff moments, he scored 30 in a series clinching game 7 against a clippers team who everybody thought was the better team.

    Chris Paul does not have a signature playoff moment either but nobody knocks him.

    It's all bullshit picking and choosing for reasons to **** on Harden.
     
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  13. JayGoogle

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    KAT in Portland for who?

    If you are Minny, you can get more than CJ and whatever else they offer. If Minny says "We are trading KAT" they will have at least 7 teams calling them immediately. For all of his flaws he's a super young and talented guy that can probably be coached up to play better.

    If you are Portland swapping KAT for CJ makes you better but not good enough to do anything. Maybe good enough to convince Dame to stay around.

    I just don't see the sense in these teams dealing with each other unless it is Minny trying to get Dame...then that makes sense. Portland has a fire sale, get some picks, get DLo...trade CJ and Nurkic elsewhere. If they go the firesale route, which they should if they are trading Dame, then I could see Minny making sense. Going all in on KAT + Antman + Dame could be a fun team. Minny might as well as KAT is probably out of there otherwise.
     
  14. blahblehblah

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    Cp3 used to get a ton of criticism for his playoff performance (and other things) despite evidence to the contrary. His recent love affair with the public is due to two things. First is age. Media and public usually soften on players as they reach the end of their careers. Second is overachieve. Cp3 performance the past two years have been a surprise and everyone loves performing beyond expectations.

    Regarding Harden pivotal playoff performance... I doubt you would get clippers game 7 from many rockets fan if you asked them to answer off the top of their heads. I barely recall anything from that game 7 except the rockets won and clippers epic choking. First thing anyone would recall from that series is game 6 imo.
     
  15. jiggyfly

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    If they do not remember game 7 from the Clippers I have to question there fandom and there agenda.

    His series against Utah should be signature with the way they tried to play him and the way he still scored.

    My point is all of this is arbitrary and nobody has been judged as harshly as Harden, nobody.
     
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    So championship lol
     
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    Dame's biggest mistake was tying his fate to trash ass CJ. When are people gonna realize that this guy is booty. Replace him for an "inferior" but more well rounded player like Marcus Smart and see how much better that works.
     
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    cj mccollum is better than eric gordon
     
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    Isiah Thomas must have been something special, because he's been the only six-footish player to lead a team to championships. Portland has struggled to win in the playoffs so Lillard must not be that type of special.

    Apparently, Lillard is open to leaving Portland, but doesn't want to be someone's sidekick. o_O It's not his fault that height matters a lot in basketball nor is it his teammate's fault that their best player can't affect the game as much as everyone thinks he should.

    If I were Portland, I would try to convince him on a new vision of surrounding him with more defensive players like Covington without losing too much on offense and get him involved in the coaching search. They probably won't get much closer to a championship, but that seems to be the formula that the Pistons followed with Isiah Thomas.
     
  20. lakersuck2

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    At pull up 2s sure. By a lot. But that's literally it. He's trash at literally everything else. But he's really really good at long 2s.
     

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