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Joe Biden's America

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SuraGotMadHops, May 12, 2021.

  1. jiggyfly

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    The Army in general does not appeal to the majority of people in the U.S. and thats why they are targeting niche people like this.

    Is the Army better for attracting alpha male wannabes who have an inferiority complex that the older commercials appeal to?
     
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  2. jiggyfly

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    It's very telling that this is what you took from that video.

    What about that video makes us look like p*****s the 2 mothers?

    How is that video a sign that we are imploding?
     
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  3. Nook

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    The marketing of the Army and other branches is going to want to appeal to the demographic of people likely to join the service. So you are looking at the 16-23 year old range. Also, the stereotypical view of the military has changed a lot over just the last handful of years.
     
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    The left needs to start grooming high ranking military officials for political positions. It’s one way we could potentially bridge the divide. Although the right will likely call them America haters etc when when they run. Because that’s what they do instead of actually... you know... govern.
     
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  5. raining threes

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    Yes
     
  6. fchowd0311

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    Glad you are consistent at least. But shame you didn't comment on your worries of inflation then and criticize Trump at the time and only acknowledge it when someone asks you directly.
     
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    Weak explanations

    Fact is prices of gas and goods went up because we were energy independent under the Trump administration and aren't energy independent under the Biden/Harris Green New Deal BS. So of course cost of good/services are going to go up as gas prices go up. It's simple economics.

    We had the best economy with lowest unemployment on record under Trump.

    You got a problem with that.
     
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  8. fchowd0311

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    Can you specify the legislation passed and the executive orders made that has made us "more energy dependant"?

    And how is a desire to transition to renewables make us more dependent on foreign oil? The one aspect of Biden's energy plans(as in almost none of it has been implented yet) is the lack of nuclear power.
     
  9. fchowd0311

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    Also Trump's economy and in fact Obama's economy (no partisan bs here) followed the same unsustainable type of growth that leads to bubbles and crashes.

    This was in 2019 before the pandemic:

    "U.S. consumer debt is now above levels hit during the 2008 financial crisis - MarketWatch" https://www.marketwatch.com/amp/sto...d-during-the-2008-financial-crisis-2019-06-19

    Trump's economy was fueled by consumer debt, stock buybacks and low fed interest rates.

    Unemployment being low doesn't reflect the health of the average American as it says nothing about quality of jobs along with other factors like price of rent, homes, healthcare etc. For example if median wages increased, it means nothing if the price of homes, rent, healthcare etc outpace those wage increases.

    Keep in mind how absurd Trump's demands were. The fed was already lowering interest rates during a time of sustained gdp growth. Usually fed lowers interest rates when the economy is struggling in terms of growth. It's the decrease of the rate during growth that can result in inflation. And that was already happening under Trump but he wanted to go even more down near 0.

    It shows how out of touch with economics he is and shows anyone who gives him credit for the economy is rather stupid as someone this clueless wouldn't the one responsible for a sustained growing economy. And besides, like I already said, that economy grew off the backs of consumer debt, stock buy backs and low fed interest rates rather than some discernible increase in disposable income for the median family
     
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    You do know Gas has been going up since last year right?

    What changed under Biden that we are not energy independent anymore.
     
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    Great in theory

    Doubtful it happens

    LIKED: For your optimism
     
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    Slowly

    Ask yourself why gas prices jumped 30 cents a gallon Biden's first month in office.

    Under the Obama/Biden admins gas was 3.50, 4.00 a gallon. Under Trump gas prices were 2.00, 2.25 a gallon and much of the time under 2.00 here in Texas.

    I'm out and ready to go back to starting to talk about sports again.
     
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    Accurate explanations.

    What does that mean? There's hundreds of wells in West Texas that were capped due to a supply glut that decimated the oil and gas industry. They will be drilled once prices rise high enough.

    It is simple economics.... we had a supply shock that is reverberating across many sectors.

    Also had the sharpest economic decline and sharpest rise in unemployment under Trump. You gonna dispute that?
     
  14. fchowd0311

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    How do people have such simplistic views of such a complex system that has so many confounding factors?

    "U.S. All Grades All Formulations Retail Gasoline Prices (Dollars per Gallon)" https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=emm_epm0_pte_nus_dpg&f=m

    Notice how gas prices dropped rather drastically in 2008. You know what else happened in 2008? One of the largest global economic crashes in history that was experienced around the world.

    Guess what happens when the economy crashes and growth slows or decreases? People need less gas as there is less economic output. That means demand for gas is lower often during recessions and depressions. Notice how gas prices increasing coincide with the economy recovering meaning economic output is increasing and thus demand for gas would increase.

    That graph also shows how little effect presidential politics and policy has to do with gas prices. Bush Jr's administration had some of the most aggressive pro-oil policies in modern presidential administrations and during his time gas prices steadily rose until the economic crash plummeted it.
     
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    Because the shale boom happened under Obama that caused a supply glut into the Trump admin. Houston and Texas were hit pretty hard due to the supply glut.

    I would talk about O&G capex.... but I feel like I'd be wasting my time.
     
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    I'm also assuming an economic recovery was taking place also where demand for gas started increasing again. Gas prices plummeted during the 2008 crash.

    So multiple factors in including yours.
     
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    That was the plan under Trump.... lower interest rates and increase government spending in order to overheat the economy to create labor shortages. Trump admin got the deficit back to +1$ trillion pre Covid.
     
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    1st thing he did was put a bunch of the Obama/ Biden EPA regs back in place.

    2nd thing he did was shutdown the Keystone pipeline.

    These are only 2 examples of job killing, not energy friendly policies.
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    Dear lord dude. How is a project for a pipeline that will take years to construct have any effects on supply for the short term speculative market?

    Also tougher emmisions regulations from the epa would imply lower gas prices because tougher emissions regulations means less demand for gas...

    For example, if Biden imposes a regulation to speed up the production of EVs to replace ICE vehicle line ups, that means less demand for gas which means lower prices.

    Dude this is basic stuff.
     
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    EPA regs drive up costs.

    Are you saying Biden is shale friendly.

    Do you think it's a coincidence prices always go up at the pump and the costs of goods/services rise when a Dem is in office?

    Ask yourself why this is or maybe you like living in denial.
     

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