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Stone/Silas Press Conference

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., May 18, 2021.

  1. DonatelloLimestone

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    How did the organization cater to Harden's whims when 90 percent of our moves were to cut cost,cutting staff including harden's trainer, often rotation players with no replacements, loing assets and picks all to save money. Outside of the Wb trade, was harden's goal to save Tilman Money?
     
  2. napalm06

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    No no no. Bad Stone. Bad Stone.

    Also, Tilman has said he's excited to rebuild. You gonna make a liar out of your liar boss?
     
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    "I don't think there's a perception that's something's wrong with us, at all. We just took brutal injuries."

    What

    Clearly he is not reading his own fan base... or anything
     
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    Get first overall pick this year. Suck next year get first overall pick next year. Trade wall after next year or convince him to opt out. Harden will opt out after next year and sign with houston. He will also convince durant to do the same. Houston will have durant, harden plus 2 first overall pick to go with wood, kpj, Tate, Martin.

    The end
     
  5. napalm06

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    Why do we still have House on this roster. Should've dumped him at the deadline. Or last offseason. Or the previous deadline. Or the previous offseason.
     
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  6. Corrosion

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    Moving on from Wall is going to be very costly in terms of assets , probably prohibitively so. You might as well get used to the idea of him being here for at least another year and a half.

    Bottom line , you have two choices here: throw away multiple first round picks to move Wall & still have to take back ~$35m in contracts that while not as bad would likely still be somewhat toxic ..... Or wait that contract out and use it as a financial vehicle to improve the roster packaged with those same picks you would have used to simply dump salary.


    I'm going for option #2.

    The above statement by Stone gives me some hope that he understands the Wall situation .... what I gather is that he won't be throwing picks away just to move that contract for "less bad" contracts that doesn't make the team better or create actual cap space just to save $$$.

    When that contract is moved , it will be to get significantly better.
     
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    Just when I'm about to commend Ra-fell he goes and says some delusional ass shyte.
     
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  8. Corrosion

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    Really depends upon who's there to move up for (and how far up you can get). If there's not a player you really like there , I wouldn't object to moving one or both of the later picks into next years draft because its essentially a double the talent draft with high school players being eligible again.

    Right now they have 24 & One of 21,22,23 pending a coin flip ..... How far up do you think they can move with those two picks ?

    Can they swap one of those picks in this draft for one that falls in the middle (10-20) of next years draft ?


    They do have the Detroit & Washington picks too ....
     
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  9. rockets1995

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    Trying to compliment and pump up their value for trading John Wall.
    Don't believe false praise from a GM, it is only a tactic.
     
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    Trying to compliment and pump up their value for trading John Wall.
    Don't believe false praise from a GM, it is only a tactic.
     
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  11. alethios

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    We can't keep repeating past mistakes so I am in agreement that it's not in our long term best interest to dump him at all costs. I'm willing to accept that we'll have losing seasons for at least a couple of years and honestly all I can hope for is that Stone eventually builds a competing team in spite of ownership.
     
  12. Corrosion

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    I don't think the situation is as bad as some ..... I'm pretty optimistic that they can make the playoffs in 22/23. Everything lines up ... draft picks , cap relief , acquisition of talent.


    It starts this offseason - they have to get a god player with their MLE and keep Olynyk. That adds to the foundation of Wood / Porter / Tate / KJ & the potential early draft pick.

    You go into next off season with Olynyk , Wood , Porter , Tate , KJ , and the MLE / Pick and add to them with another MLE & early pick .... That's 9 guys. (Probably a playoff team as it is)
    Then at the deadline you can move Wall & EG for useful players without throwing away draft assets and possibly get a real superstar in return.
     
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  13. CircaSurvive

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    Wall has absolutely no business being apart of the future so surely just saying the "right things" about our franchise player.
     
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    Well he's not going to trash his players - delusional or not - we need to find a taker for Wall - comments like the ones he made are necessary to ensure that happens. Just need one idiot GM to buy in to Wall being a "hooper" and a "good guy".
     
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    Nonsense laden propaganda.....

    Scary nevertheless when it comes to the rebuild issue....
     
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    All that goes down the dump if we get Cade, then it will be the Cade show.
     
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    Well, this year’s (finishing) roster certainly did not have (m)any familiar faces, so there’s that... (just sayin’)
     
  19. latebloomer19

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    I trust Stone more than Silas.
     
  20. DonatelloLimestone

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    Yea itll come down to our scouting. Each year we get a lot of special talent in the teens and guys who fall through teh cracks. we have no sense of urgency for win now, so I can see those picks being of great value. Stone has shown the ability to be able to find a few gems, lets see if he can scout the high prospects too.

    I believe the detroit and washington picks are heavily protected to the point they may not convert for 4-5 years and may not be first roudners, is that right?
     
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