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Colorado Police break elderly women's bones

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ThatBoyNick, Apr 15, 2021.

  1. Rocket River

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    Honestly. . . . I no longer believe much of anything in police reports
    They are some of the most slanted bias if not out right lying pieces of literature in the world

    Rocket River
     
  2. jiggyfly

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    This should be covered about as much as police shootings and people wanting police reform should be all over it.

    What they were doing after they locked her up is even more disgusting.
     
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    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

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    I trust absolutely nothing that they write or say

    bashing someone’s head into the pavement will magically turn into “suspect tripped and fell and hit his head on the ground” on the police report

    their word means less than nothing

    video is the only reason they don’t get away with every single lie

    pathological liar, egomaniac, and having no empathy are required traits for a police officer
     
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  5. J.R.

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    Three resign
     
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  6. LosPollosHermanos

    LosPollosHermanos Houston only fan
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    They’re just employed down the street instead
     
  7. Andre0087

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    Where's you Babylon Bee article about this? Surely it needs one...:rolleyes:
     
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  8. Andre0087

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    Where are the charges at? I get pissed everytime this thread is updated without that detail...
     
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    Them laughing and fist bumping about the sound of her bone breaking is very disturbing. Those two need put in a psych ward. Elderly abuse and mentally ill abuse!
     
  10. NotInMyHouse

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    Won’t matter. Everyone will be rehired one county over.
     
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    When will people learn to stop resisting?
     
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    Two former Loveland police officers will face criminal charges following the violent arrest of a 74-year-old woman with dementia, online court records show.

    Prosecutors with the Eighth Judicial District Attorney’s Office on Wednesday filed charges against Austin Hopp and Daria Jalali, the officers who violently arrested Karen Garner in June after receiving a report that she tried to walk out of a Walmart with $13 of merchandise. Garner, who was 73 at the time of her arrest, suffered a broken arm and other injuries.

    Hopp — the first officer to arrive on scene — faces charges of second-degree assault, attempt to influence a public servant and official misconduct, court records show. The assault and attempt to influence a public servant are felony charges and the official misconduct charge is a misdemeanor.

    Prosecutors charged Jalali with three misdemeanors: failing to report excessive use of force, failure to intervene in an excessive use of force and official misconduct.

    https://www.reporterherald.com/2021/05/19/karen-garner-police-arrested-assault-charges/

    “The Larimer County DA speaks about charges former Loveland officers face in the arrest of the 73-year-old woman with dementia.”

     
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    Loveland to settle Karen Garner civil case for $3 million

    The city of Loveland has agreed to settle the Karen Garner use of force civil rights case for $3 million. Sarah Schielke, the attorney representing Garner, spoke to reporters Wednesday morning when she called on the Loveland Police Department to change and even gave a cash offer for the chief to resign or be fired, a request he later denied.

    According to an early morning release from the city, the settlement, which will be paid primarily through the city’s insurance, will bring an end to the pending federal lawsuit stemming from the June 2020 arrest of Garner by former LPD officers Austin Hopp and Daria Jalali; the arrest allegedly left Garner with a broken arm and dislocated shoulder.

    “The settlement with Karen Garner will help bring some closure to an unfortunate event in our community but does not upend the work we have left to do,” said Loveland City Manager Steve Adams in the release. “We extend a deep and heartfelt apology to Karen Garner and her family for what they have endured as a result of this arrest. We know we did not act in a manner that upholds the values, integrity, and policies of the city and police department, and we are taking the necessary steps to make sure these actions are never repeated.”

    The release said that as Hopp and Jalali both still face criminal charges, the settlement, which comes without admission of liability, “prevents further litigation and is in the best interest of all involved.”

    “There is no excuse, under any circumstances, for what happened to Ms. Garner,” Chief Bob Ticer said in the release. “We have agreed on steps we need to take to begin building back trust. While these actions won’t change what Ms. Garner experienced, they will serve to improve this police department and hopefully restore faith that the LPD exists to serve those who live in and visit Loveland.”

    Ticer also said in the release there will be multiple changes to department policy and practices. This includes:

    -An updated and improved use-of-force review process that will include faster response times and review by an assistant city attorney as well as city of Loveland human resources personnel.

    -Plans to launch LPD Listens tours, an opportunity for residents to share and engage with Loveland Police Department command staff.

    -Collaboration with City Council on ways to expand and enhance LPD’s mental health co-responder program with SummitStone Health Partners.

    The release added the city is also moving forward with “several efforts as part of its trust, transparency and accountability efforts” since the arrest. Among this is the conclusion of the independent professional standards investigation led by Hillard Heintze, a strategic security and corporate investigations consulting firm.

    The release said while the investigation has ended, “it is not considered complete until all internal processes have concluded, which could be several months from now,” and the city will release the report to the public and outline the investigation’s findings once all internal processes have been finalized.

    Schielke said that Garner, over a year since being arrested by the LPD, is in declining health. She said that because of her dementia the family has been unable to talk with her about what she would want.

    However, Schielke said that a few weeks ago the family found a letter that Garner had written when her dementia had begun to set in, well before her arrest.

    “All I wanted all my life was someone to love, adore and care about me, and I find the world scary now, being alone,” Schielke read from the letter. “So value love as a treasured gift, it is all that matters. I want the best and fullest life for my children and grandchildren, and I feel the world is getting crueler. Don’t make it any rougher for yourself by living in the past; look out the front window, don’t dwell on what is in the rearview mirror.”

    Schielke said that accepting the settlement and bringing the civil case to a close provides this closure and allows for the forward progression Garner wrote about.

    “This incident shocked us by exposing us to the lowest point of human behavior and indecency,” said Shannon Steward, Garner’s daughter-in-law. She said conversely the family has been overwhelmed by the support from the Loveland and world community; for this, she said “thank you.”

    Allisa Swartz, Garner’s daughter, said that the settlement money will go to offering Garner the best around the clock care that she needs. She added it has been hard to see her mom go through this and that, because of the dementia, “it’s like you’re losing them twice.”

    Both daughters also called on the department to change so this does not happen again.

    “We need change,” Swartz said. “We need them to change.”

    “Step up or step down,” Steward added.

    Schielke also called on the department to make serious changes following Garner’s arrest, calling out several Loveland officials. She said that to change the culture of the department a change in leadership is needed, singling out Chief Bob Ticer, Sgt. Phil Metzler and even mayor pro tem Don Overcash for his support of Ticer and the department.

    “Those in power in Loveland have created a culture of police officers who have no respect, no care, no compassion for the people they are supposed to be keeping safe,” she said. “A culture of police officers who back one another before they stand up for a vulnerable citizen they are supposed to protect.”

    She went on to describe the leadership as seeds that grew a rotten tree as well as the “good old boys” and “the old guard.” She said in order for the community to really heal “they have to go.”

    In response to Ticer’s comments included in the city’s release, she simply said “enough,” adding she is “sick of having to be the only person holding bad policework accountable in your department.”

    Following this, Schielke issued Ticer and the city an offer: If he resigns or is fired in the next 30 days she will pay $50,000 of her own money to the Alzheimer’s or dementia charity of his choice.

    “You want to build back trust? You want to restore faith to the LPD? Resign,” she said. “This community can not heal until there is accountability from leadership, so let me try to help.”

    Ticer later said he has no intention of resigning.

    “I understand the emotion, I understand those demands,” he said. “But my responsibility here is to ensure the investigations (into the Garner incident) that are moving forward are handled professionally.”

    Ticer also declined to address the supervisors’ approvals of Hopp’s BlueTeam report Wednesday, except to point out that Hopp faces charges related to deception.

    “That is why we have a comprehensive third-party investigation evaluating that and any other policies in the department that may or may not have been applicable in this arrest,” he said.
     
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    3 million dollars, 1 thoroughly beaten elderly woman
    for
    $14 bucks worth of stolen items that never actually left the stores premises

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    Society-ing done right
     
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  15. JuanValdez

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    I swear, a bad hire is so much worse than a vacant position.
     
  16. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost not wrong
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    Karen spoke to the right manager
     
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    wow, there was actually some accountability
     
  19. ThatBoyNick

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    Hopefully cases like this, Derek Chauvin and Kim Potter's convictions will lead to more reform among LE. Now that LEO know that they are accountable for acting negligently and excessively this might encourage them to act more responsibly.

    I've long said the biggest reform needed was that LEO don't get preferential treatment in the legal system.
     
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