Maybe have the taser on the upper thigh and your sidearm where it normally is? I don't know either...it's sad to see this young brother go over a possible mistake but man you have to listen to what they're asking you to do. It's just not worth it to try and run from the cops anymore...
I'm sure they are trained differently on tasers and firearms. I don't know what that is though as the only training I've done with LEO is on hand to hand techniques and restraints. That they are trained differently goes further to what went wrong here and why it's important. This stuff isn't nitpicking or pedantic. If we don't want to see things like this happen again or further protests that turn into riots over this there needs to be a very thorough and transparent investigation.
To add I'm hearing that many protesters don't trust the explanation coming out of Brooklyn PD. That is more reason why this needs to be investigated further.
I have to think a large percentage of those protesters don't want to hear any explanation and just want to protest anyway. Its sad but that's what happens when you are in the age of microwave activism and hashtag activism. Not saying protests are not deserved but what next?
You're being disingenuous. My OP in this thread stated: My referencing the approach used with the taser only went to my analysis of whether this was an intentional killing or not. That's it. Now it has been taken by you and others far afield. I already stated this person should feel the effects of their actions. Others have proffered darker and more cynical responses/theories and used foul language. I think they are wrong to do so.
We saw this in the 50 and 60s before social media. A group oppressed will always have portions of people irrationally lash out. Also there probably are some bad faith actors instigating looting and rioting in the mix as well.
We did not see this in the 50's and 60's it took an actual movement and organization to from a protest. Now all you have to do is tweet something out and it's an instant protest with a large majority of the crowd not even knowing what actually happened. This also lets those bad actors immediately piggyback on these protest, hell they might be the ones starting it.
Wait, so she’s a very senior officer, but is out in the field mistaking guns with tasers? What kind of incompetent buffoons are they hiring down there?
You think the only protests that occured were from peaceful led ones by people like MLK? You do there were violent riots also. Hence why MLK wanted to address them and advocate against them. If there weren't, he wouldn't have been needed.
I'm saying is that even accepting that the LEO made a mistake we need to know how such a deadly mistake could be made in the first place. I'm not a gun or taser guy so I admit I don't know how different they feel or how they are holstered. Given that we've seen two incidences of this occurring leading to death of a suspect and followed by protests that have turned violent I think it's pretty important to we look further into this. This might be just be one LEO making one horrendous mistake against training or this could be a flaw in training or it could be something else. Looking cynically into this it isn't just Clutchfans posters who are but it sounds like there are people out in the street right now who feel the same way. If we want to counter that cynicism answering these questions and getting more information out there is necessary.
I agree there certainly were deadly riots back in the 60's and before but what is concerning now is the speed in which these things can spread especially on incomplete or false info. This past summer we had protests that turned into riots in a city north of Minneapolis over a false report that LEO had killed a black man in custody, it turns out the man was alive and unharmed and it was an LEO that was shot. Also in Minneapolis over a report that LEO had killed someone when it turns out that person had shot themselves and there was video of him committing suicide.
@rocketsjudoka (not sure if cutting up your post tags you) Yes, an investigation would be standard procedure. I don't think anyone would say an investigation shouldn't take place. That's fine. I'm happy to look into taser/hand gun training. I don't know that there is anything that can be improved upon with current training. Maybe there is. We should always strive to be better but again, we have 700,000 cops interacting with the public millions of times a day. At some point, even with the best training in the world, cops will mess up and accidentally kill someone. We are never going to have a perfect system where accidents with guns don't happen as long as we have 700,000 cops walking around with guns everyday. People can spend their time doing whatever they want. It's pretty stupid to be out in the streets over something with an incomplete picture of the facts. The video has shown us what happened, the only rationale conclusion is a tragic accident. What is there to protest? A tragic accident occurred which ended someone's life and likely ruined this cops life. It's sad but there's no logical reason to be out in the streets about it.
I thought maybe they meant she had a ... senior moment. I know, too soon. This whole thing is the worst, or another worst.
I really really like this idea. Doctors have the ability to mistakenly hurt people, so they have to be insured to the gills to stay in business, but your average doctor is arguably in fewer dangerous decisions than a PO. If you required insurance, the market would rate departments based on their training, good outcomes, accidents, law suits, etc. The market would really exert a good kind of pressure (IMHO) on the situation.
