obviously they did because we are comparing them with the "top 5" benches in nba history such as, again the champion spurs, champion pistons, champion heat
Olajuwon also played in an era where many teams had, at most, 1 superstar. In other words, the Rockets may not have had a second star, but back then, most teams didn't, so the Rockets weren't necessarily at a disadvantage. Compare that with the current era of stars teaming up. That's why Curry can't do that. In 2016, Harden led the Rockets to a 41-41 record. They were able to make the 8th seed because the Lakers beat the Jazz in their final game of the season. In other words, had the Jazz won that final game, the Rockets would've missed the playoffs. Does that mean Harden wasn't a superstar?
Who made that comparison? I showed you the article because, if the GSW bench were as good as you claimed, then they would've surely been listed. How can something be in consideration for "best of all-time" while not being in the top 5? Does not compute.
Question was the 2016 rockets roster without harden more or less talented than the current warriors roster without curry? If the warriors are more talented than that rockets team outside of curry then why are they the warriors the 10th seed in the west that season harden led the nba in total points scored, averaged 29/7/6 made the playoffs and still DID NOT make an all nba team. judging from that precedent. Cp3, or Mitchell should make it over steph curry. Because that was the argument in 2016 for Lowry and klay making it over harden.. WINNING, and voters didn’t vote for harden despite making the playoffs because they didn’t play up to their rosters talent ( whatever that means) when in all actuality outside of 2018 harden being durable and playing so many games covered up a lot of warts on those rockets rosters.
Clearly not. Harden did more with less. Let’s put that in the past. We need to revive rockets in China. Now, MLB is affiliated with China.
I think the current warriors with draymond, looney, Wiggins, wiseman, bazemore, and oubre are more talented then brewer, josh smith, injured dwight, etc
The 2016 Rockets supporting cast was custom built to complement Harden. Their chemistry with Harden was significantly better than the current GSW supporting cast with Curry. Remember, basketball is a team sport, and the 2016 Rockets were a great example of synergy.
You posted an article from "sportskeeda" written by a "jason mills". Who is jason mills? And why should we hold his opinion as anything more? This might as well just be some guys blog But even if we were subscribed to jason mill's book of basketball, they can still be considered one of the best of all time because every year there are 30 benches in the nba. Meaning there werent just 5 great benches ever
thats just 1 quarter of basketball. harden delievered in game 7 the next game what about in 2016 when the warriors won a whole playoff series without curry, and then went up 2-0 on the trailblazers without curry in the next round
remmeber when max kellerman and vincent goodwill said that steph curry could do what harden did in 2019 if he had the greenlight harden did. LOL @J.R. similar to ben taylor and other steph curry fans actually believed that curry could carry a team while being the singular focus of a teams defense to the playoffs. Warriors fans are now screaming about firing steve kerr for limiting currys minutes, when in all actuality nobody knows currys limitations more than steve kerr. The warriors might still sneak into the playoffs because of the play-in game, but hopefully this nonsense of steph being on the same level of harden will go away after this season. The warriors offense when curry is on the court with draymond is 13th in the nba( nothin to write home about) (listen at 5:06) "Houston's offense is cooking too, posting a rating just under 120.( this is without gerald green, clint capela, house, and rivers lol). So whats curry's excuse
Overcoming a big 4th quarter deficit in an elimination game is a big deal. The next time anyone says that the 2016 Warriors had a weak supporting cast, you can throw that in their face to shut them up.
Wiggins and Oubre both have a higher PPG than the Rockets 2nd best scorer that year, so less talented.
It's you who has reading problem. I said several times that they had a great team, that of course included the bench. But you never address my point, which is about stars. What does the bench has anything to do with stars? Why even mention the bench? And I already made my point about Klay and Draymond and I said more than once that it was about pre-Durant. Reading comprehension?
So what? Draymond is an elite team defender who can guard one through 5. Rebounding is not end all be all in defense. We had a top 10 defense in the bubble playing small ball. Rodman would be actually useless on the Warriors on offense and no one questions his impact on the game like you are doing. No one questions Ben Wallace either who was also in the "perfect" situation with Detroit. Great player needs other great players to win, more at 11. Do you see how ridiculous you sound? The Warriors would not have won without Draymond, he literally has some of the best impact metrics in the playoffs. He would be great with other great players. His total package which includes his leadership and IQ is not questionable. Draymond can be good next to other elite shooters . If you put Draymond next to Dame or Trae Young or any other elite shooting player(Jamal Murray) he would be great and better than Christian Wood. You dont know because you dont watch enough. Nope, they dont have the vision. The kinds of passes Draymond makes at his position is only bested by Jokic. Most ball handlers arent as good of a passer as Draymond but more importantly there are FAR less Forwards and centers who can make the kind of passes Draymond can. We literally saw Westbrook fail in 4v3s and this still needs to be said to you. Draymond is a great passer, space or not. A video from someone who knows FAR more about the game than you or I. No Im talking about current Draymond who's a better fit next to Curry and a better player than Wood. Lmao everyone thought we were losing because Wood was out and what happens......wow we are the second worst team in the league. In fact the Warriors were still busting our ass even without Curry on the floor with Wood on. It's both. Draymond is still better, there are plenty of teams who would rather have Draymond than Wood if they wanted to win right now. And his playoff production would far outweighs Wood's production in the playoffs as well where Draymond gets even better. There are comparable defenders here. We had Nwaba,Wall, Brown, Porter, Bradely, Jaesean Tate. Its not like its trash defensively over here, you dont get to make that silly ass excuse.
Draymond Green is literally the best defender of the modern era and Klay Thompson is the second best shooter of all time and Andre Iguodala was a former Star turned 6moty and people still say Curry's talent was not comparable to Lebron, Kawhi...LOL Harden...completely bogus argument.
I said they had one of the greatest benches, which you seem to think is an exaggeration. Iguodala literally won the finals mvp coming off the bench Both klay and draymond were already all stars before durant joined. Stop with the revisionist history
Players are teaming up to win titles, not make the playoffs. You don't need a great team to make the playoffs. How much help does Curry need to make the playoffs and not be under .500? We can list numerous examples of guys not having great teams, or a 2nd all-star type player, or even having garbage...and still making the playoffs. Why shouldn't we expect Curry to do it? Again, I ask: Assuming we agree the GS supporting cast is garbage, what does that matter as far as not going lotto? A superstar can make the playoffs surrounded by garbage. Are you ever going to answer this direct question? Telling me how Harden made the playoffs doesn't answer this question. A superstar can make the playoffs surrounded by garbage. Why should we give Curry a pass for failing to do so? How much help does Curry need to make the playoffs and not be under .500?
