Teacher goes on racist rant, not realizing Zoom was on.

The teacher agreed that the boy was caught up prior to exiting the call and starting her rant.

 

So we know the mother has a bias against black people. Yet for some reason, we should take her word over that of the mother who did well for 11 years and was concerned and involved enough to call the school, and get involved. She is literally being involved.

@JayGoogle is giving a master class.

 

She had already told the mother this:

“Your son has learned to lie to everybody and make excuses,” the teacher says in a video.

“Are you serious?” Stokes can be heard whispering to herself as she listens.

“To be entitled, because you taught him to make excuses that nothing is his fault,” the teacher continues to say. “This is what Black people do. This is what Black people do. White people do it too but Black people do it way more.”

 

They're not talking about the mother when they are talking about who is responsible, accountable, and what could be done in regards to bigger issues. This situation really isn't important to the bigger issues. I mean, the teacher exposed herself, she will be rightly fired, the family was wronged and they will receive a settlement. That's really all there is to this story.

Could the student have been a good student before COVID and the mother have dropped the ball in regards to his education this year?

I teach preAP classes, there are plenty of virtual preAP students who were failing before the parents were coerced into sending their kids back to school. Those parents dropped the ball this year, but their students were the best of the best in prior years.

He thinks parents are greater influences on their children's education than the schools. It's a point of view. It's not that revolutionary or controversial. You are free to disagree and state your counter or just disagree and move on with your life.

All he's really saying is that failing students are the products of failed parenting. He brings up a racial angle because he is Black and because the lack of success in education is a major problem for Black Americans.

 

I don't mean to completely excuse the teacher's comments. That being said I know who make racist statements behind closed doors all the time. I don't doubt others do. That being said I don't care, it's moment of frustration.

Maybe I'm wrong on how manparents that aren't but that's much larger issue in this video. If you do preAP, all your parents are probably engaged. I'm glad other teachers have given their opinion I appreciate you backing on the overall. It kills ms some have no comments on the mother.

I didn't read the article until recently. I understand now why some people aren't taking any issue with because all it refers to is the rant. When watching the video if you aren't concerned about the mothers lack of engagement the

 

Nothing to disagree with here...but there is a LOT more to it than that. Teachers like this can also have a negative impact on students. We have studies on that too, about how negative expectations or low expectations can lead to low scores and low performance. But, we don't want to address that because addressing that means talking about systemic racism and for people like PGA that's all irrelevant...

I said it's very possible the mother made mistakes, it was a rough year, my issue is then making her out to be the bad person in all this with little to no evidence of her situation. We have no idea what her life is like, what she's been through, what her family has been through, to go assuming that she's failing her kids education as @pgabriel keeps saying.

And this is the thing. If @pgabriel said "Parents are greater influences on their children's education than schools..." I likely don't even jump into this thread, I'd probably just like the post...but PGA said throughout this entire thread it is a race issue. When others talked to him about it he clarified....several times...that this is a race issue...then flatly said Black people are bad parents and that that 'Can't be retorted.'

Well, I don't think he brought it up out of any worry or concern, it's practically his history on this forum. He once challenged me and said "Black people don't care there are no groups out there that help poor black people." so I listed him a bunch of groups that do, even local ones...what did he do? He proceeded to use this SAME talking point days later. This isn't out of some worry. He talks about how bad black people are in as many topics as he can. It's his thing.

In my time on the internet and dealing with actual self-proclaimed proud racists, this is a simple but often used trick. Instead of talking about the racist incident you talk about something else, you divert it. So instead of talking about the racist teacher we're now talking about how the mother is bad and in his mind deserved the rant. This is common, we see it every time there's police violence against a black person. Suddenly the victim of the brutality is the one under the microscope.

Nearly EVERY case involving racism this is the counter. Just pull up any thread about it on this forum and you'll see it, usually from the same people, because discussing actual racism is terrifying for some people.

 

I don't mean to completely excuse the teacher's comments. That being said I know who make racist statements behind closed doors all the time. I don't doubt others do. That being said I don't care, it's moment of frustration.

Maybe I'm wrong on how manparents that aren't but that's much larger issue in this video. If you do preAP, all your parents are probably engaged. I'm glad other teachers have given their opinion I appreciate you backing on the overall. It kills ms some have no comments on the mother.

I didn't read the article until recently. I understand now why some people aren't taking any issue with because all it refers to is the rant. When watching the video if you aren't concerned about the mothers lack of engagement your head is buried.

She says all the teachers are pissed. I'm sure all you teachers see this races. A bigger society problem. You warn parents, you try, you get no help, kid fails, parents blame school

 

I'm not talking bad about us. We are ****ing stuck b****ing about the same things and not addressing ourselves. We keep b****ing

At some point if you want to improve you have to address your faults

Stop acting like our **** don't stank

 

"Black people are bad parents...you can't retort that."

How is this not a racist statement...

 

@JayGoogle

We are the ones behind in education so it is a race issue.

Asians and whites do well. Hispanics have passed us

 

Well she's just the arbiter of truth isn't she...she would never lie about anything especially not someone who she clearly doesn't like...

 

I I never said that so don't put it n quotes dumbass.

 

You believe her when you want. That says something about you

 

Yep, you did. Thatguynick asked what can't he retort and you replied "That black people are bad parents." Want me to get the quote chain again, I'll stop tagging the other poster though because he grew tired of this game.

 

Post # please?

 

We did this before, #140 you'll see this...full context, nothing cut out just the offending statement bolded.

 

So wouldn't it be a good idea to address both personal responsibility and racism in our educational system?

Why are you arguing against anyone who worries about the racism issue?

You are going out of your way to excuse and denounce the racism that exists and is part of the problem.

It is possible to try tackle both issues.

 

Not sure of your point, but the teacher said that when she thought she had disconnected.

Prior to that, this happened...

By the end of the call, the teacher assured him that he was caught up

 

Exactly.

If this teacher ranted against this mother, this isn't even a story. Again, I'm sure everyone's mother had a teacher they didn't like or trust for whatever reason. This happens I'm sure often for teachers that they meet parents they do not like.

If this was a discussion about how the mother could have made sure her son was prepared for online classes and she could have done this, she could have done that...nothing controversial there. Making it into a "That's just how they are..." instantly makes it a race issue. Being racist has NEVER solved any issues in this country, perpetuating racist stereotypes has solved NOTHING in this country except to create more division. I've always been stern on this, yall can look at my history if it goes far back (not been active that much here recently), I'm stern on this no matter the race. We won't solve race issues by calling all white people evil and racist and we won't solve these issues denigrating blacks, hispanics, whoever.

I'll never buy into the idea that perpetuating stereotypes about a demographic helps that demographic in ANY way.

 

So when she said, "Your son has learned to to lie... you taught him to make excuses..," she thought the mother wasn't on the call anymore? Whose son was she talking about?