Teacher goes on racist rant, not realizing Zoom was on.

So what. Do you understand the mother isn't returning calls? Who cares about what people say in private?

 

The mother is the one who called the school and made sure her son was caught up. Prove me wrong.

 

Dear lord you must be trolling.

 

It's April. That's what we KNOW. Parents have been sent at least 10 progress reports. We could safely assume that the parent knew her child was behind or just didn't care. Why call/care now? I don't know about the district this thread is about, but the districts around here have implemented measures to get failing distance learning students back in school that include legal action. Districts have already started to call parents about summer school. Summer school costs money. Those types of measures might have been used against the parents at this particular district, who knows, but what we do know is that we are in April and school ends in May.

 

You could clarify your position, please do if I'm wrong, but from what I understand you agree with @pgabriel because you also believe some parents are inadequate in providing an environment that develops their brains properly and you believe that society should be responsible for their development from ages 0 to 3 or 10.

 

So answer me this then...

According to the story, the student has been a good student UNTIL Covid. This is a 12 year old kid, so that means it's likely this kid has been a good student for 11 of those years (or most of his life, who knows) and simply hasn't adjusted to learning online as many haven't, could it be that the parent hasn't adjusted either?

Why are we assuming she's a bad parent for a kid that's (according to the story) has been a good student until Covid hit?

 

This goes to the point @fchowd0311 is apparently trying to make that some parents have either no effect or a negative effect on their child's education/development. If this student is struggling with distance learning, then he has been struggling for 6+ months. If the parent didn't know, then she's wrong because she is at best irresponsible or at worst she knew but didn't care so long as it didn't inconvenience her in any tangible way.


EDIT: I'm not going to say she's a good or bad parent, I have no idea, but I can't see how she's made correct decisions in regards to her child's education this year. It's too late in the year for that. Her son or daughter has basically lost this year even though the kid will most likely have a glowing end of the year report card due to this teacher's behavior.

 

All info is from teacher. If that's correct everything else is

 

The difference between chowd and PGA and chowd's saying that irrelevant of race while PGA IS definitely saying it is a race thing.

The story says that the mother knew he was struggling. I think a lot of assumptions are being made about the mother, if the kid has been a good student up to that point, how can we say she doesn't care? We don't know the details of the situation, maybe the mother was getting him caught up in other classes and the science teacher was just last on her rounds to get her son caught up? Maybe there was a reason she missed calls? Personally, for example, I don't pick up the phone for any number I don't know and I know many people that are the same. Maybe this is something another teacher or school staff member told her to approach it this way?

At the end of the day, making a claim that she doesn't care and then saying your evidence of that claim is "some stats I have" is way out of bounds since those stats say nothing about this particular woman and her child and their situation.

WHAT we do know however is that this teacher went on a racist rant. That's what this thread is about and it's now turned to a discussion again about how black people are bad parents...you see how this is an issue? The woman who did the bad thing gets excused and the microscope goes on the victim of the racism, the child and the mother, and once again negative stereotypes get debated and discussed as if they are legitimate.

 

But you don't know if it is correct. That's the point. The teacher's side is "The mom doesn't care." the mom's point is "This teacher has always had an issue with my son."

Giving the rant the teacher gave and that the teacher was also sending emails around about her it seems like the mom might have been on to something...

 

Yet the child was able to get completely caught up on all the work during this one zoom call. He couldn't have been that far behind where he was slacking the entire year.

 

I know the mother wasn't returning calls. She isn't making excuses to a boss.

 

You may need to rethink your position here, pgabs.

When both Senator and TJ are supporting your position, you know you're likely on the wrong side of the issue.

 

After she realized how badly she stepped in it, I bet she did catch the kid up. No way she would have lost all sense of reason for work that the boy could have honestly made up in one Zoom call. She did what restaurants do when you find a hair in your soup.

 

No you don't know that, there's a ton of reasons why someone might not pick up the phone and how many times did she call, do you know?

Apparently, the mother WAS in touch with the school. We also know that this was a good student before lockdown. Why are you so sure the teacher isn't lying about someone she doesn't like? She was sending emails to other people about this woman...why? Sounds like she did have interactions with this woman that were not positive, neither of them liked each other, and the mother suspected the woman was racist and was proven correct at that.

 

She picked up the phone when she thought it was her friend. Did you listen?

 

They are both making it about race. The difference is who they think is responsible for the problem and who they think is capable of solving it.

You just made assumptions and excuses. It's April. School year ends in May. Those are not assumptions.

PGA used this story as a microcosm to a bigger issue and as a platform to present a point of view. If the slander against the woman is 100% wrong, it does not make the issue disappear or unworthy of discussion.

I don't see an issue of where the thread went. Not like there's much to debate about what the teacher said or what should happen to her. But if someone wants to use it as a jumping board to discuss a bigger issue, like PGA and chowd did, then it's their right in this forum.

 

Have you seen the 'Karen' videos? People get worked up and say racist things for the simplest of reasons.

 

It's possible that the boy's missing assignment could have been the straw that broke her sanity, but I doubt it.

 

How is the mother who heard a racist rant making it about race?

You've made a ton of assumptions and excuses for the racist lady...again, the student was a good student UNTIL covid, and yet you're here assuming the mother is at fault.

The point of view that black people are bad parents...that's literally his argument. He's come out and said it plainly.

Well, I have issue with debating racist ideas like "Black people are bad parents" or making it seem like racist ideas like that are arguable.