Solid is not good enough for a top pick. You want to get a franchise level player, someone who can carry a team, take over when your teammates are struggling. I only saw him play in the two Final Four games, so I can't say I know how good he is. I like his tenacious defense. I like his court vision. These things don't show up in boxscore but very important. He doesn't seem to be very explosive or especially crafty in driving to the hoop. His shooting isn't impressive. I checked his stats, he shoots only 33% from 3, that's kind of just okay, not even above average for a star guard.
Agreed these are all silly comps. The guy he reminds me of? Bostjan Nachbar. They're both males, both play basketball, both are like 6'8-6'9, etc etc.
If recent history has proven anything, you pick the 6'8 guard that can shoot and have passing abilities. This seems to be the trend the NBA is going. I would have no regrets if Cade became a bust.
very hard to envision Cade becoming a bust...not with that size, skill, and shooting ability the ones that have high bust potential and scare me the most are skilled, but soft big men who get drafted high hoping they’re the next Dirk (Bargnani, Dragan Bender), prehistoric bigs that can’t shoot and who’s best skill is posting up (Jahlil Okafor), bigs that are just athletic and don’t have much else, and athletic wings that can’t shoot (Josh Jackson) or athletic, small guards that can’t shoot and are really SG’s in a PG body (DSJr) Kuminga’s worst case is being this draft’s Josh Jackson
at worst he can be a Draymond Green with more offense type player realistic best case simmons with a shot thought a bit shorter pipe dream luka/harden lite
I agree, big guards are pretty much safe picks these days with how position less things are. The ones that can actually shoot like Cade already has a higher floor than anyone else. Even if his athleticism causes his scoring to dip in the NBA, he can still grab you a ton of rebounds and spot up 3's. I honestly don't see a downside.
for me, it’s just a question of if he’ll be able to get to the line and finish at the rim at a high level in the NBA...if not, maybe he’s just a high IQ 20, 7, and 6 guy that can play multiple positions which is really good, but not superstar, franchise player level
If you look at some of the franchise level players in the league over the past several years that went to college, besides Carmelo who has been the best players on a championship team? Not even a lot of them even make it that far. Even just looking at Mobley and Cade, neither of them carried their team that far. Besides the final shot, Suggs had some big plays in that final four game. What was much more impressive to me than that shot was his block on that dunk attempt, securing the rebound and then throwing that long bounce pass for the easy assist in transition. Keep in mind these dudes aren't even 20 yet. College freshmen. Lots of growing and projecting to be done.
Cade, Suggs, Harden college comparisons: http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=cade-cunningham--jalen-suggs--james-harden
Suggs is a nice player.....but he's not Cade, Cade is simply better than him. Suggs simply isnt explosive enough to get by guards in the NBA. Baylor ate Gonzaga's lunch. But the whole using the tourney as a way to judge players is bogus anyways.
I hate this seemingly recent trend that if you're not a total stud by age 21 or so, you don't have much hope of improving and becoming one. I see it in baseball circles too.
I don't know. I am not saying Suggs can't do it. But calling him "solid" doesn't impress me if I am going to draft that high. Like I said, I like his defense and his court vision. These things bode well in the NBA. I assume that he is a smart kid. That is something I like too. What I don't see is exceptional ability to get to the hoop. That is something you have to be able to do if you want to be an elite PG on the pro level. To be able to do that, you either have great speed and athleticism like Westbrook (which most people agree that's not Suggs' strength) or you are crafty like Nash and CP3. And his mediocre shooting worries me too. Again, I want to get an elite player, not just a solid one.
He went against a zoned ass zoned packed interior 5 player defense. NBA is nothing like that, it's really spaced out.
I don't watch college ball anymore, but 6'8 dudes who can pass, score, etc. without freakish athleticism remind me of Walt Williams. All the hype and about 25-50% of the expected results. Walt had a good career but never lived up to the "Wizard" hype. So how does Cade compare to a Walt Williams for all you that remember him?
