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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. FranchiseBlade

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    Except Trump turned down the opportunity to purchase additional doses of the vaccine. The biggest issue has been lack of vaccine supply. That is directly the fault of Trump for not purchasing the additional doses when had the chance.
     
  2. TheRealist137

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    I attribute Trump saying racist things like China virus and Kung Flu. If you don't think that is racist, maybe you agree. Also, I do not know who perpetuators of most asian hate crimes are. Do you have a source? If it's cherry picked, then I'm not interested.
     
  3. NewRoxFan

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    First mention of trump's bright light body insertion therapy?

     
  4. SuraGotMadHops

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    I'll never understand how "China Virus" is racist. I remember when it was initially called by everybody the Wuhan Virus, but of course the Chinese controlled main stream media scrubbed all of that. The variants are all being referred to by their geographic point of origin (UK variant, Brazil variant). but I guess that's ok. We better watch for the flood of anti-British hate crimes now.

    If you don't know who the perpetrators of most asian hate crimes are, then what qualifies you to say Trump is the cause of them? Because he said Kung Flu?? Just say you don't know and leave it at that. Saying "I dont know but I'm certain it has to be this" is just reckless, and lazy.

    By the way, according to this study in NY, majority of hate crimes against Asians were perpetrated by African Americans.

    https://www.voanews.com/usa/anti-asian-hate-crime-crosses-racial-and-ethnic-lines
     
  5. TheRealist137

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    Your own article says that the data is anecdotal, and also has this:
     
  6. SuraGotMadHops

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    Again, your position is conjecture based.
     
  7. Amiga

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    Swelling Anti-Asian Violence: Who Is Being Attacked Where - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

    Over the last year, in an unrelenting series of episodes with clear racial animus, people of Asian descent have been pushed, beaten, kicked, spit on and called slurs. Homes and businesses have been vandalized. The violence has known no boundaries, spanning generations, income brackets and regions.

    The New York Times attempted to capture a sense of the rising tide of anti-Asian bias nationwide. Using media reports from across the country, The Times found more than 110 episodes since March 2020 in which there was clear evidence of race-based hate.

    There have been many more attacks on people of Asian descent in which hate is not a clear motivation the way it is when racial slurs are used. Those cases include the fatal attack of a Thai man in January, as well as the assaults of a 91-year-old man in Oakland’s Chinatown and a 89-year-old woman in Brooklyn. Those episodes, and other brutal high-profile attacks, have terrified the Asian community.

    But there is no ambiguity about the cases The Times collected: These are assaults in which the assailants expressed explicit racial hostility with their language, and in which nearly half included a reference to the coronavirus: “You are the virus.” “You are infected.” “Go back to China.” “You’re the one who brought the virus here.”

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    The tally arrived at by The Times may be only a sliver of the violence and harassment people of Asian descent have faced over the last year, as hate crimes are generally undercounted and underreported and only the most egregious accounts become headlines. It is also possible that the number of reports to law enforcement authorities and the media have increased, rather than the number of episodes.

    That said, our broad survey captures the breadth of violence across the country — episodes that grew in number after Donald J. Trump as president began calling the coronavirus the “Chinese virus,” which activists said fueled anti-Asian sentiments early in the pandemic.

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    American Public Health Associated study below.

    Words matter. Tweets matter. Especially from POTUS with a loud mouthpiece. 3/16/2020 is when Trump tweeted "Chinese Virus".

    Association of “#covid19” Versus “#chinesevirus” With Anti-Asian Sentiments on Twitter: March 9–23, 2020 | AJPH | Vol. Issue (aphapublications.org)

    Objectives. To examine the extent to which the phrases, “COVID-19” and “Chinese virus” were associated with anti-Asian sentiments.

    Results. One fifth (19.7%) of the 495 289 hashtags with #covid19 showed anti-Asian sentiment, compared with half (50.4%) of the 777 852 hashtags with #chinesevirus. When comparing the week before March 16, 2020, to the week after, there was a significantly greater increase in anti-Asian hashtags associated with #chinesevirus compared with #covid19 (P < .001).

    Conclusions. Our data provide new empirical evidence supporting recommendations to use the less-stigmatizing term “COVID-19,” instead of “Chinese virus.” (Am J Public Health. Published online ahead of print March 18, 2021: e1–e9. https://doi.org/10.2105/AJPH.2021.306154)
     
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  8. SuraGotMadHops

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    It's incredible the way people try to correlate words with actions. You don't need a hashtag or DJT to say "China virus" for perpetrators of hate crimes to know where the virus came from and idiotically take it out on domestic asians. But go ahead, blame DJT and hashtags.
     
  9. Amiga

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    It's a study. Common sense isn't always right, but in this case, study shows that it was. Trump rhetoric causes more violence toward Asian.
     
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    B.1.1.7, the first variant to come to widespread attention, is about 60 percent more contagious and 67 percent more deadly than the original form of the coronavirus, according to the most recent estimates. The C.D.C. has also been tracking the spread of other variants, such as B.1.351, first found in South Africa, and P.1, which was first identified in Brazil.

    The percentage of cases caused by variants is clearly increasing. Helix, a lab testing company, has tracked the relentless increase of B.1.1.7 since the beginning of the year. As of April 3, it estimated that the variant made up 58.9 percent of all new tests.

    That variant has been found to be most prevalent in Michigan, Florida, Colorado, California, Minnesota and Massachusetts, according to the C.D.C. Until recently, the variant’s rise was somewhat camouflaged by falling infection rates over all, leading some political leaders to relax restrictions on indoor dining, social distancing and other measures.

    As cases fell, restive Americans headed back to school and work, against the warnings of some scientists.

     
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    You should try dip$hit's bleach and hydroxychloroquine regimen.
     
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    Big uptake in cases measured today, this is not good.

    The highest amount of cases since early February.

    I think Biden should do an executive order on national mask mandates and building capacity limits. He has to ability as president to make an effort to curb the beginning of a wave for the 1st time, he should do it, make a difference, save lives, and hopefully, it would be a one-time thing as vaccines continue to roll out.
     
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    Once again, we thought the rest of the world was not relevant to us. Le sigh.
     
  15. ThatBoyNick

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    Houston has a sold-out no distancing, maskless, no covid test requirement UFC show in a month at the Toyota center


    Florida has the same thing in about a week and they are one of the states with a big upswing right now

    I just don't understand
     
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  16. Buck Turgidson

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    Watching the Astros games, they are at 50% stadium capacity, but there are sections with huge clumps of (mostly maskless) people together and then sections that are largely empty. I don't understand it either.
     
  17. ThatBoyNick

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    I don't watch Baseball but that's really disappointing to hear

    I mean... at least it's outside? The Toyota center one though, inside, full capacity seating
     
  18. Buck Turgidson

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    It's outside when the roof is open. Didn't know TC was at 100%, that's disappointing, irresponsible, and not really surprising.
     
  19. ThatBoyNick

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    Well, it's not for the Rockets, just for the UFC (and probably other) events.
     
  20. Buck Turgidson

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    Well that's weird. Who is making that policy/distinction?
     

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