This is what's relevant here @dobro1229 https://ourworldindata.org/explorer...aks=false&country=GBR~USA~ESP~ITA~BRA~IND~KOR
Per M is certainly relevant, objectively. Subjectively, it's hard for me to look at death in that way - raw number is what I feel. As from the virus evolution standpoint, it cares about raw numbers. The more infected, the happier it is and the more chances for it to evolve. From that standpoint, India, Brazil and US are leading the pack.
For me per capita is the only way to look at it - when comparing countries. For example, to say Canada and Belgium have had equal trouble containing covid because they have roughly the same amount of deaths would feel like an incredibly dishonest and deceiving statement since Canada has well over 3x the population. If you're looking at it from a global tragedy standpoint then it's just a completely different conversation, no need to compare countries, a larger raw number of deaths is obviously more unfortunate. More chances for mutations is a serious problem. I was just responding to a post comparing US's 7-day death average to Canada, you absolutely have to account for scale when doing those types of comparisons.
Okay so we have 3X as many deaths per capita. Still seems like we aren't at a celebratory moment at having only 800 deaths per day. I mean we aren't Brazil but we aren't worldbeaters or anything.
I was not comparing countries, but thinking in term of deaths and risk of mutation. Raw # is as important as per M, from both perspectives IMO.
Yes, while the trend is good, the sheer numbers are still way to high and show how important that mask wearing, social distancing and other easy to follow approaches are still needed.
Absolutely it's still really bad, just relatively much better than our darkest days (3400 deaths per day average).
Simple, Biden takes Covid seriously. Trump did not and instead spent his time downplaying it, making masks a political issue, and not only that, used racist rhetoric which in turn led to a huge spike in anti asian racism and attacks.
Sounds like a lot of conjecture to me. Didn't the Trump admin launch Operation Warp Speed which brought us the vaccine as quickly as it did, which was already being rolled out at a rapid pace, which Biden simply inherited?
It almost seems as though you aren't engaging in a serious debate here. And if you do really believe this (Trump and Biden handle Covid the same) then it really says alot about the alternate universe that FoxNews creates for folks like yourself. You are giving Trump a pass on Covid response simple because you believe if there was an question on a test given to Trump that said: Would you prefer for a virus such as Covid 19 to: A. Come to the US in the 3rd year of your presidency, kill 600,000 Americans and destroy the economy before your re-election or B. Have no major crisis in your first term, leading to a booming economy before your re-election and Trump would have selected B, then his response to a global pandemic is always on par with anyone else in any other scenario. Trump technically was President of the United States during the first year of the Covid Pandemic. And under his presidency there were people still in government who helped launch a scientic and responsible response. However nearly everything that Trump did after April 7th (the day that the NYT, WAPO, and other major news outlets reported that the virus was disproportionately affected communities of color) undermined everything that those science based experts were trying to do to help get America out of the pandemic. His only answer was to try and get his electorate to look the other way BECAUSE HE BELIEVED he needed them to feel good about the economy, and job he was doing leading up to the Re-Election. It's as simple as that. Trump absolutely sucked in his response. The guy didn't do diddly squat after April 7th. He only passed the Cares Act because he's not a conservative, and only cared that it would help prop up the economy right before his re-election. It says alot actually about Pelosi and the Democrats that they wouldn't do what the Republicans do all the time in trying like hell to destroy the economy while the other party is in power in order to help them get elected.
The vaccine rollout was terrible under Trump, and only picked up once Biden came to office. So you're saying that a guy who bungled literally every aspect of COVID management for the entirety of 2020 was all of a sudden going to start doing well? Now that sounds like wild speculation and wishful thinking to me. Remember 500k died under Trump. No mention of being a racist and calling it "kung flu", "china virus" which fueled the anti asian violence?
The vaccine wasn't even approved until November, he only had about two months to work with it and did a great job given the short time frame. If you attribute asian-hate to the "racist bigot" DJT, you may need to re-examine who the perpetrators of most asian hate crimes are.
