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Tony buzbee filing lawsuit against Deshaun Watson? Hints at mistreating women

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  1. zeeshan2

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    To clarify a point, I think most of the incidents where Watson coerced sexual acts likely fall under "Sexual Coercion" laws rather than "Sexual Assault". The language gets tricky when talking about someone "forcing" a sexual act. It's only if he does so with physical force or with violence or the threat of violence that would make it sexual assault.

    I think under the circumstances, it would still likely count as a 3rd degree felony, but that's a lesser charge than Sexual Assault.

    He could potentially also be facing a dozen or more counts of Indecent Assault.

    Now all of this said, with the money he has to throw against the potential charges and the lack of solid evidence, his lawyer would likely be able to beat all of the cases in criminal court.
     
  3. bobrek

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    The "simple" act of making a woman touch his penis is considered sexual assault.
     
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    It depends on how he "makes" her do it. If he does it with force or with the threat of force or violence, sure... but if he just put his dick on them there's a separate statute for that, at least in Texas, it falls under indecent assault, not sexual assault.

    Sexual assault is basically what they call rape in Texas, so that's what the statute describes
     
  5. Kim

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    Once again, Kim's Kingdom rules in favor of polygraphs for all parties, including their lawyers.
     
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    Right.


    He's sounding very frustrated by the lack of cooperation in regards to a settlement by the opposing camp. He's getting called out for his bullsh!t and it doesn't look great.

    He's probably hurting these women's case, as well as any future mayoral prospects here. He should take his own advice and shut up and lawyer.
     
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    Also, you know, the, uh, lack of the clients' attorney actually talking to the police...
     
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    Despite polygraphs only having an effectiveness that is probably somewhere between the 70-90% range (why they aren't admissable in court), this would bring out the most truth in the case, most likely.
     
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    I mean, who amongst us hasn’t had at least 40 different instagram massage therapists over the last few years?
     
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    Tony suckering Rusty to trying the cases or allegations in the press. SUCCESS!
     
  12. Supermac34

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    I actually thought Rusty would be smarter about this so far. The "defense" in the press is sort of hurting Watson I think.
     
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    Hardin 18 Buzbee 21

    Veteran Massage Therapists Discuss Working With Deshaun Watson


    HOUSTON (March 31, 2021) – During the past two weeks, the law office of Rusty
    Hardin & Associates has received dozens of unsolicited phone calls, letters, emails
    and text messages from professional massage therapists who have worked with
    Deshaun Watson.
    These women say they are deeply troubled by the accusations made against Deshaun
    and that these claims are wholly inconsistent with their experiences with him and who
    they believe him to be. All of them stated that Deshaun never made them feel
    uncomfortable or demanded anything outside the scope of a professional massage.
    None of them experienced any of the behavior alleged by anonymous plaintiffs in the
    numerous lawsuits filed by the same Houston attorney.
    The following 18 women are voluntarily issuing statements in support of Deshaun –
    with their names attached. “Collectively, they have worked with Deshaun more than
    130 times over the past five years,” said Rusty Hardin, founding partner of Rusty
    Hardin & Associates. “These statements show the other side to this story that has
    been so lacking in the flurry of anonymous complaints filed by opposing counsel.”
    Here are their statements in their own words.

    Myah Roberson is a licensed massage therapist, who has been working in Houston
    for 10 years, primarily on athletes.
    “I started working with Deshaun in December 2019 after being referred to him
    by another therapist. He sent me a screenshot of a diagram that the head trainer
    of the Texans gave him, highlighting the muscles that needed to be worked on,
    which included the groin and hamstrings. He asked if I felt comfortable working
    on those areas and I said yes, because I am used to working on athletes.
    During the massage, Deshaun was more comfortable using a towel than draping
    sheets over the table; this isn’t unusual at all. I have several clients that prefer using
    a towel over sheet. We began using a towel, and that became the norm. When I
    saw that the first lawsuit mentioned a towel, I chuckled because I gave him that
    idea. And it’s not inappropriate because they teach you in massage school that
    using a towel is okay. Some of these accusations are so ludicrous. I just can’t see
    him doing any of those things. He was never inappropriate with me. I never felt
    threatened in any way.”

    Sara Fetherolf is a licensed physical therapist with a degree in Dynamic
    Neuromuscular Stabilization who also works as a strength and conditioning coach. In
    these roles, she has performed extensive tissue work and body manipulation on
    professional athletes for the past decade. She considers herself a “movement
    specialist” who concentrates on the function of muscles and joints.
    “On July 16, 2020, I performed a very thorough massage on Deshaun,
    focusing on his lower back, hips and groin, at a home he was renting while
    visiting Los Angeles. He is one of the most professional athletes I ever
    worked on. When the session was over, Deshaun helped me put away my
    table and walked me to my car. Because it was already quite late, Deshaun
    texted me during my drive home to make sure I had gotten home safely.
    My experience was nothing like the plaintiffs are describing. I don’t believe
    they are being truthful.”

    Kaleigh Galindo has been a licensed massage therapist since 2018. She specializes in
    lymphatic, Swedish, deep tissue and sports massages.
    “I worked on Deshaun Watson several times from August to December in
    2020. He was respectful in every session. I never had any issues with him being
    inappropriate. Focus areas requested were hip flexors, groin (adductors), glutes,
    hamstrings, quads, lower back, abdominals. These are common areas of strain
    with pro athletes, especially those who play his position. He was always
    hospitable and communicated to make sure I always felt comfortable and safe.
    Many people idolize Deshaun Watson and perceive him as a legend. However,
    in getting to know him, I know he’s just your regular 25-year-old.”

    Masako Jones has been a licensed therapist for the past six years.
    “I have worked with Deshaun several times since October 2019 and he’s never
    been anything other than professional and polite. We would focus on areas that
    were strained or injured, his shoulder, quads, calves, adductors, glutes, feet,
    things like that. That’s not odd or inappropriate; you have to think about how
    athletes use their bodies, the stances they’re in, how they move during games. All
    of those areas are typical, especially for football players.
    Deshaun never made me feel uncomfortable or intimidated. He’s rather quiet
    compared to other professional athletes I’ve worked with. I am just completely
    floored by these lawsuits. The behavior described in them doesn’t sound like him
    at all. I can’t even imagine him saying those things or doing those things.”

    Luretia Dany Craig received her therapy license from the Atlanta School of Massage
    in 2008. She primarily works with athletes, active adults and entertainers.
    “I massaged Deshaun three times. He was always pleasant. I never had any
    uncomfortable or inappropriate experiences with him. He often listened to his
    music and said very little. During my career, unfortunately I have experienced
    inappropriate situations where I stopped a massage. This never happened with
    Deshaun. He was respectful to my craft.
    Deshaun specifically came to me requesting I work on his lower body. I
    worked his hamstrings, quadriceps as well as his glutes and lower abs. Asking
    for these muscle groups to be massaged is not uncommon for athletes.
    Working those muscles from origin to insertion is imperative to properly treat
    the muscle. If a therapist is inexperienced in this type of work, I could imagine
    it may make them uncomfortable trying to translate the ‘layman’s’ suggestion
    on how to stop the discomfort. It is important for a therapist to talk through
    any request with the client to determine exactly what hurts; as even the most
    educated person loses their anatomy knowledge when in pain.”

    Norma Reyna is board-certified in therapeutic massage and body work. She formerly
    served as the Director of Memorial Hermann’s massage school and as the Supervisor
    of Houston Methodist’s massage program. Currently, Ms. Reyna is in private practice
    and a therapist for some dancers of the Houston Ballet. She frequently works with
    NFL and MLB athletes and was hired by the Brazilian government to train massage
    therapists to work on players who participated in the 2014 World Cup.
    “I frequently observed Deshaun attending sessions with another therapist who
    works in the same building next door to me. I have never observed Deshaun
    acting in an inappropriate manner and he never appeared to make anyone
    uncomfortable. He was always cordial when he walked by.
    Glutes, lower abs, psoas and adductors are very common areas for athletes –
    both males and females – to request their therapists to work on. You must
    release the psoas and gluteal muscles to release tension in the lower back.
    There’s a proper and professional way to address this area with proper draping
    and communication. When working the adductors and groin/pelvic area, it is
    not uncommon to accidentally graze the penis, but you don’t engage it. I teach
    my students to use a firmer touch or to move to a different area if a client gets
    aroused during a session, which sometimes happens.
    There’s a professional way to deal with it. If a therapist feels uncomfortable at
    any time during the session, he or she has the ability to end the session and
    immediately file a complaint with the Texas Department of Licensing and
    Regulations and vice versa. You don’t get a lawyer and file a lawsuit or go to
    the news media. You file a complaint immediately.”

    Kam Phommyuong has been a massage therapist for about 15 years in Houston.
    “I first met Deshaun about three years ago. He was a regular of ours, and I
    worked on him twice – both times a combo Tai and deep tissue massage. He
    wore boxers for both sessions. I found him to very polite and respectful. I
    didn’t even know he was a professional football player during his first
    appointment. Myself and my co-workers were really shocked to hear about the
    lawsuits and allegations, because Deshaun never hinted at or did anything
    improper.”

    Nalisha Storm has been a licensed massage therapist since June 2020 and works in
    Atlanta.
    “Deshaun first contacted me in February of this year by direct message on
    Instagram after he saw a flyer that I had posted. I have worked on him two times
    and in both instances he asked for a sports massage with a focus on his abs,
    abductors, thighs and glutes. Each session lasted an hour and he supplied the
    draping towel, which was the size of a beach towel.
    Deshaun was very respectful and professional towards me. He was also very
    quiet, listening to music on his phone. After each session, he thanked me and
    said he would be contacting me again for another massage.”

    Dr. Arielle Ball is a licensed physical therapist and Director of Rehabilitation Services
    at a hospital in Houston. She specializes in sports performance and injury. Prior to
    joining the Houston hospital in 2016, Dr. Ball spent seven years working as a physical
    therapist in the Atlanta area.
    “I worked with Deshaun several times in 2019 and 2020. He was very
    quiet during our sessions, often played his music and zoned out. Like most
    athletes, he requested that I focus on his hamstrings, abs and adductors.
    He never made me uncomfortable and was always professional during our
    sessions.”

    https://dig.abclocal.go.com/ktrk/PI...on-hardin-massage-therapists-testimonials.pdf
     
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    Jas Brooks is a licensed massage therapist in Texas with bachelor’s and master’s
    degrees in kinesiology from Texas Southern University. She is certified in lymphatic
    drainage massage, prenatal massage, oncology massage, decompression (cupping),
    Graston technique and cryotherapy. She is currently a medical staff member for Team
    USA track and field.
    “I began providing massage therapy to Deshaun in 2018 and have massaged
    him at least 40 times since then. I worked with him once or twice a week
    during the season and as needed during the off season. Early on, he said he
    wanted me to focus on his hamstrings (he had a trainer that worked on his
    upper body) and just to work the lactic acid out of his legs. This included the
    groin, glutes and feet. He never asked me any questions and hardly ever spoke
    at all. In all that time, I never had a single uncomfortable or inappropriate
    experience with Deshaun.”

    Ashley Thomas became a licensed massage therapist in Oklahoma in 2007 and now
    owns a spa in Grand Prairie, Texas.
    “I first worked on Deshaun at a hotel in Houston in December of 2019 after
    reaching out to him on Instagram. I remember Clemson was in town that day
    for a football game and Deshaun watched it during his session. Before the
    appointment, he laid out what he wanted in very clear terms: he was only
    interested in a professional massage.
    I worked on him four or five times total, the last time being in June 2020. He
    was always pretty quiet and never anything but respectful, he was the sweetest
    guy. The sessions were very professional – he arrived, got his massage, and he
    left. I’ve never heard anything negative about him and I was completely thrown
    off guard by the recent allegations.”

    LaWonda Howard has been a licensed massage therapist for three years and works
    in Houston.“I first met Deshaun about a year ago when he reached out on Instagram. I had
    two therapy sessions with him, both of which were uneventful. On the first, he
    was just focused on his areas of concern and the pressure. He listened to music
    and scrolled on his phone on the second session. He was never inappropriate
    or did anything to make me feel uncomfortable. He asked that I focus on areas
    that are typical for athletes: glutes, hamstrings, quads and groin. He was
    appropriately and properly draped with a towel, which is common with sports
    clients.
    Deshaun was respectful before, during and after both visits. I am puzzled by
    the allegations in the lawsuits and in the media, as they are not consistent with
    Deshaun’s character.”

    Nadiyah Luqman is a licensed therapist certified in sports and orthopedic massage
    in Houston. A lower back specialist for nearly a decade, she has taught courses at
    Hand & Stone Memorial and graduated with honors from Stone School of Massage.
    “I massaged Deshaun on August 12, 2020 at my office in Houston. He
    asked me to pay attention to his glutes, hamstrings and abductors. This
    was consistent with requests I have received from other athletes I have
    worked with in the past. He was always respectful and quiet, and I never
    felt uncomfortable.”

    Ana Compean has been a licensed massage therapist in Houston for the past 8 years.
    “I first met Deshaun in 2017 at a spa where I worked, which he would visit once
    or twice a week. I worked on him six or seven times over the next three years.
    He would always want his back, shoulder and arms massaged, and he asked for
    deep tissue massages as well.
    Deshaun was always draped during massages and a couple of times he even asked
    for an extra towel because he was cold. He was completely covered. He never
    said much during the massage, he was very quiet. He would always say ‘yes ma’am
    or no ma’am.’ I never had any problem with him and I never heard anyone say
    anything bad about Deshaun.”

    Raechal Martin is an athletic trainer and licensed massage therapist.
    “I massaged Deshaun four times at his house and at the Houstonian. When we
    first met, he asked if I was comfortable with glutes, lower legs, and groin and I
    said yes. As an athletic trainer, this was a normal request. Deshaun barely
    talked; he was super quiet and passive. He has been one of the easiest clients I
    have ever had. That’s what makes these accusations against him so infuriating.
    Any licensed therapist knows that you may graze the penis during the course of
    the massage and you are taught how to address it professionally. You are also
    taught that the therapist is in charge and to immediately speak up if something
    makes you uncomfortable.”

    Joanne Brito has been a licensed therapist for almost 14 years, specializing in sports
    massage.“I started treating Deshaun in early 2020 and have provided him massage therapy
    three to five times in all, the last time being in November 2020. He tells you what
    areas he wants worked on – usually groin, glutes and abs, which is normal for
    athletes. I always found him to be polite, respectful, professional and absolutely
    nonaggressive.”

    Tina Nguyen has been a licensed massage therapist for 10 years, working at a spa in
    Houston.“I first met Deshaun three years ago and have provided massages to him
    several times. He wanted to focus on stretching and deep tissue massage. He
    never asked for, or even hinted at, anything inappropriate. He was always polite
    and respectful. When I eventually realized who he was, I asked him to have his
    picture taken with me to give to my son, who is a big fan.”

    Kya Hillman is a retired disabled veteran and licensed esthetician working in Spring,
    Texas. She worked on Deshaun three times between October and December of 2020.
    “I worked with Deshaun to give him full body scrubs and body wraps. At no
    time did he act inappropriate with me. If he did, I would have talked with him
    and handled it with him.”

    https://dig.abclocal.go.com/ktrk/PI...on-hardin-massage-therapists-testimonials.pdf
     
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    Over 140 encounters? How many ****ing massages from non-team employees (legit or not legit) does Watson really need?

    I also don't think this is going to help his public image. "Here are a bunch of women he didn't act sketchy with... and he used some of their services over 40 times!"

    If anything, those "appropriate" encounters don't eliminate the possibility that he likes to get freaky in other encounters.... or these women were paid a certain level to not incriminate either themselves or Watson.... but in the end, the dude gets a ton of massages from a lot of random women.
     
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    Does a cash offer constitute coercion?
     
  17. conquistador#11

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    I've had 20,000 'massages'.
    -Big Dub-
     
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    Credit Hardin with releasing legit names/backgrounds of these women. I guess anybody can search for them and attempt to gauge legitimacy for themselves.

    But what happens if somebody comes forward and says that one of these legit people offered "extras" to them? Then what happens?

    I don't know what Hardin's full game plan is, but again, not sure this really helps Watson in any way.
     
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    That's actually not weird and him having so many massage therapist has no bearing on the civil case.
     
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    How is it hurting Watson?

    The boat has sailed on if he likes sketchy massages.
     
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