The nba buyouts are ruining the game, gaming the hard cap

But you can make a case that Markieff Morris is a big reason why the Lakers won a ring last year. WIthout him I don't think they win it all.

 

not really. He wasn’t amazing or anything. More of another body on the floor to soak some spot minutes

 

Nobody expects them to be the stars. But every championship team needs good role players, not just the stars. While many of the buyout players aren't very good, some of them are good role players that would not be playing for a contender if not for the buyout.

You don't think Drummond will help the Lakers contend?

 

False. If he wanted to stay in Houston and didn’t have a no trade clause they can ship him off whenever they like. Teams aren’t stuck with players who have value to someone else.

 

You're being naive for even suggesting something like this in the first place. If your suggestion/solution becomes a reality then you just put an $8 million price tag on Blake Griffin and a $4 million price tag on LMA. How many playoff teams go into the season with $4-$8 million in cap space? Most teams (contending teams at least) operate over the cap space going into the season because they are paying/spending to compete. Hell, as of right now, only 3 teams have any cap space according to Spotrac.

"Okay so those teams won't get Griffin or Aldridge" would be your rebuttal but now what is the market for Griffin or LMA's services? Mediocre or sorry teams like the ones they just came from. Why would either player want to sign on to a mediocre or bad team when they just left that exact situation/environment?

Bottom line is you're either forgetting or have a severe case of denial that, in the end, it's the player's decision on where they go once they're bought out. The Knicks have $13 million in cap space. Should they have offered all of that money to Griffin? They could but it would have been up to Griffin to accept. "Do I want $13 million to go play for the Knicks...or do I take $700k to go play for the Nets and potentially win a championship?" This isn't a in-his-prime Blake Griffin either because if it was then $13 million would be a no brainer. This is a Blake Griffin that recognizes his time left in the NBA is short so why not make the best of it?

If you really want to fix the system then a better suggestion would be for the team who's completing the buyout gets to take that player's salary entirely off of the cap. The Pistons will still have dead cap space going towards Griffin's contract for this year and the next. If I'm the owner and I just paid an agreed upon amount to the player to buy out his contract then why the hell should his salary count against my cap? With that $25-$30 million a year I just saved, I could then use that to add free agents in the offseason so that my small market team can improve. This way you're not perpetually penalizing the team and its front office for a mistake they or their former GM made.

 

Drummond wasn't on the list I posted. Sure he'll help in some games but I can also see him being unplayable against elite teams because he can't guard on the perimeter and being a terrible free throw shooter.

 

Being able to be traded IS in the contract. What's your point?

And the reason why teams buyout a player is because they have no trade market for him. So yes, they are stuck. We have had our share of stuck players: Ryan Anderson, Chris Paul, Westbrook, Wall, Oladipo, etc. You either waive him, buy him out, trade him for another bad contract, or trade him for a bag of chips if that's even possible.

 

No team has an obligation to put together a competitive team but if you’re going to go out and sign a free agent to a max contract or trade for a player on a max contract aren’t you unofficially telling your front office, your fans and your city that you are trying to compete? No one is going to sign a free agent to 9 figure deals for the sole purpose of filling a roster or cap space.

the problem is that teams get penalized a few times over for having that bad contract, specifically how it counts against their cap if the player is bought out and has multiple years left on their contract. If the league did away with that then both the player and the team have more incentives to work out a buy out.

if Tilman can pay Wall an agreed upon sum of money to go away and not have his salary count for the next couple of years I think he would look at that option very hard.

 

And teams often tell players we have no intention of trading you when they ask you to come. You can't put those type of promises in a contract unless you offer a no-trade clause, which rarely happens, because teams like to keep their leverage. My point is teams have options to back out of their commitment to a player being on the team he agreed to sign with, so don't knock players for doing the same. You are excusing it because the player is still being paid per his contract. If these players wanted to be shipped off to Lord knows where then they would have signed there as a FA.

Not always. Sometimes they are doing players a solid and letting the get to where they want. In return sometimes their agents direct players that way later.

 

Is there a next Rudy Gay that is a next Kevin Durant in the WNBA?

on a side note I would rather watch grass grow or paint dry than the WNBA. seriously either one would do.

 

what about kelly olynk

 

He is making 41M a year theres no excuse for dogging it no matter where he plays. The league should've given him and the Nets a hefty oenalty when it was discovered he was dogging it.

I miss the days when the old comish penalized TWolves for tampering.

 

Yall keep tying everything to $$. The owner went cheapo and tore the team down. He did have a reason to dog it, because he wasn’t going to get traded if he didn’t.

He declined 100M more. Keep your $$ TF and let me go. Someone else will sign me.

 

??? Harden was the one who requested Cp3 traded for WB. Both those guys make the same amount of money how is that going cheapo? You can argue Morey letting Ariza go was going cheapo but losing Ariza shouldnt count as tearing the team down since Ariza is just a role player and esp since he has played like **** ever since signing that deal.

Harden had an obligation to play his best cuz the 41M he received wasnt dogging it. Not just Harden, Blake should also be fined his FG% literally doubled once he landed on the Nets.

 

Best player in a 1v1 against a top 5 male college bball player? Or identical teams and Paige vs identical team with male player?

Sure bud I bet lol

 

Refusing to go lux tax and giving away assets to cut costs = going cheapo. Running off the head coach and GM = going dumb.

Let Harden out his contract. He can get paid elsewhere. Problem solved, right?

 

Uh he was the reason the Lakers could play small with us. We had run McGee and Howard off the court in game 1. The only adjustment they made was playing Morris.