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Streak-breaker game-winner ... did you want a miss?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by heypartner, Mar 21, 2021.

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Did you want a miss?

  1. Yes

    43 vote(s)
    51.8%
  2. No

    40 vote(s)
    48.2%
  1. vator

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    Damnit they are trying!!!
     
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  2. HP3

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    Ehhh....Im almost tempted to make a thread right now talking about giving Silas a chance, but I dont want to be an attention w**** or look like one. The fact is...our team isnt very good. Its so hard to judge this coach in these circumstances. Our players are really bad at shooting which kills his whole offensive foundation.
     
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  3. Os Trigonum

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    deserves its own thread
     
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  4. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    You could do a lot lot worse than this place for philosophy actually.
     
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  5. hakeem94

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    thats why you coach them, you coach them, and make them practice shooting...

    whats the point of the coach being paid millions if hes not responsible for his players shooting?

    i bet you any money if these guys held a special shooting session each day, firing 2000 shots a day each, they would be best in the league
     
  6. rfrocket

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    I'm in the "fade for Cade" crowd, but more than that I want us to end this streak before we get to the all-time losses in a row record.

    I DO NOT want to have the record of being the worst losers ever!
    Even for Cade.
    And if we couldn't beat THIS team out there I am afraid we very well may get that ignominious record.
     
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  7. HP3

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    Its not easy to just make player's better shooter's over night, especially over the course of a season. Also with Wall and Oladipo .....uhh well "showcasing" themselves. Its hard to tell what is and what isnt his fault. Even the last play wasnt drawn up like that, Wall just let his instincts take over.
     
  8. vator

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    This is embarrassing man. We need to tank with some dignity and honor. Running out our best veteran lineups and still losing to a team of guys I’ve never heard of before outside of Lu Dort is paper bag over the head level bad. The head coach crying and sh*t after the game. Wtf is even happening right now? And get rid of those Houston Oilers jerseys. Them sh*ts bad luck or something.
     
  9. heypartner

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    yes, ofc. I was doing wordplay, though.

    I guess I should have made it more clear I was striking a difference between sympathy and empathy. Maybe you can empathize, but I cannot honestly empathize with feelings of losing as a Pro NBA player. I might be able to sympathize, though.

    the difference between empathy and sympathy has an element of being truthful with oneself, wrt whether or not you trully have experienced a similar situation to say "I know how you feel."

    Like, "I know how Chris Paul felt when he blew out his hamstring, because I did the same thing in a college intramural Finals as star cornerback on the cusp of winning the critical battle against a superior athlete WR ... a 6'4 100yr dash HS state champion with great hands. We were sooo close!"

    uh, no I don't
     
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  10. harold bingo

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    I wanted it to go in. I want a good pick but that doesn’t mean we can’t win a game every once in a while. I feel so bad for Silas.
     
  11. Juxtaposed Jolt

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    @heypartner isn't wrong. Just like we don't experience the highs of signing a contract worth millions just to put a ball through a hoop, we also don't experience the perceived pain of losing X games in a row.

    But, the difference between Wall and Oladipo having a bad day at work vs 'normal' people having a bad day at work? The former gets to go home to their mansions and cry in their 24k gold bathtubs while the latter has a far, far worse experience.
     
  12. SamFisher

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    Yes but every game someone loses - imagine aleksei pokemon collapsing in mental agony.

    Frankly the thought chills my soul.
     
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  13. apollo33

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    It really isn't a NBA's head coach's job to suddenly make a 30 year old NBA veteran a better shooter during the season. Coaches just work with what they are given, the GM is responsible for assembling a roster with a balance of good shooters, passers etc. All that doesn't really matter at this point anyway, most of the players are going to be gone and wins are essentially meaningless.
     
  14. treyk3

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    I don't think you're in the wrong because you want the team to lose. I don't think anyone is in the wrong for wishing anything on a basketball game. I just think we get so wrapped up in these figures, we forget they are just like us. Maybe they have bigger houses and faster cars but they still get headaches. They still get down on themselves. Finding empathy for those who appear to be unlike you is something we can all find value in. The homeless guy you walk by heading to your job could have been you or me if things went differently.

    Put it in perspective with Silas.

    Imagine you had a sales job in oil.

    For 10 years you do everything right.

    You make your calls. You show up to work on time. You do everything that is asked of you and more.

    You are promoted to a managerial position. They notice your hard work. They appreciate all you have done.

    You take your new promotion and you work your ass off every day, but the market crashes. After a year of work, you are laid off. 10 years of hard work for one year of reward due to circumstances out of your control. That doesn't mean the work leading up to it did not provide value, it just means that end result is less than you wanted it. Millions would love for just a year at the managerial spot and many would cherish the lead up. It's still something that stinks.

    That's empathy. Silas is at risk of working his whole life for a chance at being a head coach for a tank and never getting another go. It doesn't mean that his life is so hard and it's unfair. It just is.

    I cannot cheer for losses in general even though I know the end result is better odds at keeping the pick. These players and coaches have a short shelf life in this field. Once you're labeled something, it's hard to shed it. They are visibly unhappy.
     
  15. heypartner

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    thx for the discussion...interesting to hear your take

    yeah, I get it: Using imagination to vicariously walk in someone's shoes. But if overused, I'm somewhat saying I can Own what understanding truly is, for any human condition. That would be a Super Power Empath, in my book.

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    In my personal beliefs, empathy is about understanding others, but it's healthy to strike a difference in my use of words. As I can't truly understand by imagining outside my own experience.

    Whatever one might choose to call it, for me there is a difference between imagining how it must feel vs experiencing in some way. Using the same word for both is bad for class, gender and race relations, for instance.

    Empathy has become a fad word for sympathy. Like, as long as I can imagine experience and attach feelings to it, I can understand and share in it. If so, what is whitesplaining?

    I agree, if I were that salesman.

    Maybe I'm weird, but when I say I can't empathize with Silas' (but can be sympathetic), it's a matter of respect for coaches and the salesman. These are small potatoes problems vs the homeless guy, though. So, I'm OK if you want to call my sympathy actually empathy, too. But, I don't think it's healthy for me to say I empathize with the homeless guy. Compassion, Tolerance, Sympathy...yes.
     
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  16. Dr of Dunk

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    lol. I remember people on the forum making fun of Nurse and Finch waiting in the wings... should dig those posts up and see what those clowns are saying now. Probably flipped the script and saying "dumdum Rockets let the best coaches go!"
     
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  17. tycoonchip

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    What needs to happen is Stone needs to move faster. I'm beginning to loose all my patience with this guy. Trade Wall and Oladipo. They obviously want nothing to do with the organization. Miami is not stupid enough to mortgage the future for a guy who will just flat out sign with them at the end of the season. Send them out and get anything that is an expiring contract.
    Stone is starting to remind me of a hoarder who just wants to collect junk and keep broken items.
     
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  18. ApacheWarrior

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    I wanted the win; then start another streak of losses.
     
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  19. mikenm268

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    I agree. As others have said, Silas has been dealt about the worst hand imaginable. I was really excited about his optimism and how the whole team (minus Harden) looked cohesive and bought in during the preseason/early season. He’s literally had to play many games without any legitimate big men. There are limits to what you can do as a coach when you have deliberate roster limitations, combined with a ton of injuries, long stretches of poor shooting, and some bad luck. When you are playing games with any 8-9 healthy bodies you can find, including 2-Way and G-Leaguers, who have played or practiced very little together, that is not a coaching talent issue. Wall and Wood have played like six games together...

    Maybe Silas is a good head coach, maybe when given a fair chance, he will prove that he isn’t. But for someone who seems like a really, really good dude, I hate how this has gone for him and for the Rockets.
     
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  20. Kevooooo

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    At this point I didn’t care. It went up, it bounced off, I clicked the Netflix button on the remote and moved on with my day.
     
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