Tony buzbee filing lawsuit against Deshaun Watson? Hints at mistreating women

A criminal complaint is a lot higher bar to clear, and this is mostly word VS word. Also, getting sexually assaulted or harassed and thinking "hey I should go file a police report so I have to live and breathe this every day of my life and possibly be publicly vilified for it" is not a common instinct.

 

Especially when your economic options are severely limited and you have zero job security in your **** job.

 

It's an interesting question. In Texas, the answer is probably no, you couldn't use some unproven allegations in other cases (cases 1-9) to prove the allegations in case 10. If Watson was to testify, depending on what he said, their stories may be come in to play as impeachment. If he had prior relevant convictions, which he doesn't, it's more likely those would be admissible for impeachment. But generally, the rules are in place to make sure the jury only hears the individual facts.

I would push back on "cases that don't have physical evidence but eyewitness testimony from multiple people is sufficient", if you mean that a case without physical evidence and without multiple witnesses is therefore unprovable. The question is, does the jury believe that the event happened by the evidentiary standard (which is of course higher in criminal vs civil)? A sexual assault is likely to not occur in front of an audience. After all, the attacker chooses the time and place. They don't all have physical evidence, and yet men are often convicted by juries that believe the accuser.

I would also say, big picture, is that if criminal cases were to be filed in every case, and they were to proceed to trial individually, then he would have good odds in any given case. Especially given a highly qualified defense attorney who would no doubt try to probe each victim's past for criminal, mental health, or substance abuse history that he can use against that victim when she testified. But could he win every single trial, without a single conviction? Isn't it likely that a single jury might believe the victim enough to convict, if he went to trial 12 - 22 times?

 

I imagine if we were to look at these masseuses instagram pages they wouldn't look like your typical masseuses. They probably have to deal with guys trying to get extra services regularly and are used to it. No need to go to the police unless there was a forced rape. This looks like an easy cash grab for them and they are jumping in.

Now the one report that he forced a masseuse to give him oral sex seems to be the outlier, unless I missed other complaints of this. If I was Hardin I would go after this witnesses credibility since it doesn't seem to be the normal routine for Watson. Watson's request for extra services probably works out well most of the time, especially when he's offering serious money to them.

 

It’s hard to argue that Watson isn’t a scumbag/******* but it’s unclear whether he’s done something criminal. There’s certainly a big opportunity here for multiple women to jump into the “I massaged him and felt uncomfortable” party so that 20 number doesn’t mean a whole lot yet. Of course he could also have actually raped a dozen of them and is an actual monster. Too early to say.

The easy call is probably that Deshaun isn’t the guy we thought he was.

 

Don’t let all this distract you from the fact that Easterby still sucks..

 

This is a huge assumption. It's not out of the realm of possibilities, and neither is Watson being a predator instead of just a horndog.

 

What crimes happened to all 22 women?

You act like all 22 women are saying he assaulted them most are saying he was inappropriate at most.

All of these 22 women do not sound like victims and you lumping all of them together shows your bias, you also ignore the fact that most here have said Watson is no saint and is probably a perv.

Let's not act like there are no reasons for skepticism and that women can't lie.

I am a huge proponent of Me Too but some women and maen use that to get attention or monetary gain.

 

Agreed, when talking about how Watson is a sexual predator and serial abuser of women, the important thing to remember is that Easterby is a cringy weirdo..... and honestly, isn't that worse?

 

Trump has 23 allegations and he got elected.

Google Sensual Massage Houston ya dumb f***er.

*edit - You know that's so easy and $200 a pop you get what you want. He must have some domination fetish where it pumps his ego to get a girl to do what they don't really want to do.

 

Same goes for men, especially those with a big fat bank account.

 

True, I never said they didn't.

 

What the end game here? Does Watson ever play in the NFL again?
I mean what happens. Let’s say he settles out of court - what to stop another attorney from coming along with 20 more massage therapist who felt the same way. I don’t think he has a career anymore. Not in this MeToo environment.

 

He doesn't settle.

 

He will settle out of court for 10-12 million.
Texans will void his contract.
He will go to sex addiction rehab.
He will come back to the NFL for the 2022 season on a one year deal for 10-12 million
He will play another 10 years

 

So you're saying he was the mastermind all along. What a way to get out of a contract!

 

All it will cost him is $150 million over 4 years

 

The Texans would be stupid to void his contract. They don’t have to pay him if he’s suspended. Tank this year, let him come back and get value back up and then decide what to do.

 

Big ben raped a girl in a womens bathroom in a bar and got suspended for four games. NFL dont gaf

 

I don't think I'm biased - I would absolutely love the accusers to be proven true. Watson has been one of my favorite Texans players, ever, and I truly hope the truth is that these allegations are all lies. TBH I haven't read all the allegations. I don't think they're even all out there.

I think the term victim is more inclusive than just sexual assaults - more than even being a criminal victim. All these accusations involve a woman accusing Watson of doing something to them that is inappropriate. I think you can be a victim of sexual harassment even if the behavior punishable under the penal code.