[Reason] When It Comes to Policy, Biden and Trump Aren't That Different

stupidity is equating child separation w unaccompanied minor crossing the border


i wish that you'd think before you post

 

I agree it’s dumb. That was the point.

 

yip, if only OT would think before he post

OT has a penchant for cutting n pasting intellectual dishonest articles

this was another half-assed article---using convenient baseless assumption to bash Biden's stimulus package--that OT had cut n pasted

https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/...-covid-bill-1-9t.309798/page-22#post-13459779​

 

I guess it depends on how much you value children being attached with their parents and a policy that forcibly removed them 100% of them time without context and one that doesn't being considered a major difference (premise of article).

 

whether you think forcing a zero tolerance policy and seperating all children from their parents as a deterrent is a major difference in policy than not having that policy.

 

No you.

 

I'm full of them. How do you rate your comment quoted above?

I'm not sure what the problem was. I pointed out why the data used didn't support the point the author was trying to make and how it was used dishonestly.

I can go further talking about both being fiscally irresponsible which was mentioned in the article is so overly broad that it loses all meaning. Spending is something both parties have been doing for a long time and isn't just a Trump and/or Biden thing. It is a philosophy more than policy comment as well.

The areas of that spending are greatly different between Biden and Trump and those areas actually relate to policy.

If you can't address the issues brought up with the article and the dishonest approach and manipulation of data... then why post the article?

 

Several people pointed to issues with the article and the information it contained. Those weren't ad hominem. You didn't address the issues and simply called my comment discussing it dumb. Your standing on weak ground to criticize others for not address the issues.

 

Ya how a spending increase occurs is a signficant difference.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt-to-gdp

If you expand the graph in the link above to max, you'll notice the highest era of sovereign debt to gdp in this nation was in the 40s and 50s and coincidentally it was one of the most prosperous times for the white blue collar middle class. It's because we spent the money on the people especially infrastructure.

The way Trump created the deficit was reducing the tax burden of corporations and the wealthy.

Two entirely different methods of increasing the debt where one actually benefits the people and is an investment of the people that pays off in the long run whole the other is for short term profit gains of the wealthiest in this nation.

Those are signficant differences in philosophy. To brush them off as similar is exceptionally bad faith.

 

stop lying

 

I think there are some major policy differences between Biden and Trump administrations beside immigration. Trump and the Republicans did everything to undermine healthcare for tens of millions without offering any alternative to Obamacare. Biden is trying to marginally expand availability of affordable healthcare. Secondly, whereas Trump’s official position was to deny climate change and to weaken the Clean air and water act, Biden is supportive of addressing climate change. Whereas Trump tax cuts went overwhelmingly to the wealthiest 1% Biden’s tax policy is not as skewed. Biden also favors labor unionization than Trump. Then, whereas Trump dismantled the domestic terrorism division/agency (white supremacy crimes are no longer classified as terrorist, these being the overwhelming majority of domestic terror) and cut their funds, Biden is pro-actively addressing domestic hate movements. No more “Chinese flu” or “kung flu” cracks that helped fuel the astronomical rise in anti-Asian hate crimes.

 

Trump didn’t have a policy.