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Tony buzbee filing lawsuit against Deshaun Watson? Hints at mistreating women

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Nimo, Mar 16, 2021.

  1. Kemahkeith

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    All I can say is there is no silver lining in this for Texans. The one person with enough tradeable value to bring back a haul in draft picks is now tarnished. His trade value will plummet, you void him and you get nothing but cap space. If anyone can find a silver lining for the Texans out of this, please let me know. This is just bad.
     
  2. TEXNIFICENT

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    Hey, you still have a NFL Team.
     
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  3. cmoak1982

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    There isn’t. Which is why I don’t think they’re involved.
    They are collateral damage.
     
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  4. Kemahkeith

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    Pay the man Shirley
     
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  5. Nook

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    I practice in Federal court primarily and every state is different but the larger over reaching rules are usually similar.

    So there can be recourse for patently false claims but it is a very hard standard to reach, you have to essentially prove fraud and then move for sanctions. This likely doesn’t apply in this case because these women aren’t going to admit at deposition that they made it up (I am not saying they did but for the purposes of this example we are).

    So a second option would be a counterclaim against the women for damages. These women likely do not have money and sometimes this scares off plaintiffs to drop the case. Because these women have an attorney worth over half a billion dollars and because the attorney is going public with the suit I doubt these women back down.

    A third option is to move for summary judgment or directed verdict if the defense can prove the plaintiff failed to prove their case to the degree that a jury could find in their favor. That isn’t likely here either.

    Our court system is designed to let the accuser have their day in court and while the vast majority of cases in the civil arena are in the grey area these are some that are clearly frivolous.

    The fact our system is this way is why some people with money pay off those that accuse them of terrible things. In the past someone like Watson could pay these women off and get a non disclosure agreement which would silence accusers . However over the last 5-10 years we have seen victims/settled defendants violate these non disclosure agreements.

    The wording of the complaint is odd, they discuss the jurisdictional minimum but they also are seeking punitive damages that likely are not limited to jurisdictional limits.

    Also the inclusion of the NFL is interesting, and I think it is likely that he is angling at a larger suit against the league.

    Last plaintiff leaked that Watson wouldn’t settle the first allegation pre suit... well there was no mention of the other suits so there is no guarantee that Watson was offered to settle those and settling one could make him look guilty for the others.

    I am not buying that since yesterday 4-5 other women came forward, were vetted and cleared and had complaints filed. This attorney has deep pockets and is calculated. He knew there were others and had them lined up before that first suit was filed. There are things this attorney knows that substantiate the claims that he hasn’t discussed and won’t produce until the court makes him do so through a discovery schedule.

    It used to be that a not guilty finding immediately exonerated the accused in the sphere of public opinion and the media but after OJ Simpson that isn’t the case. Americans know guilty people get off sometimes. So the reality is Watson is going to be tarnished long term for this.
     
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    They'll recoup that through missed game checks next season. There's no way he's not suspended for at least half of the next season
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    The best scenario for the Texans would be that Watson catches a long suspension meaning they won't have to pay him which leads to the team tanking while still being able to flip him to another team for a bag of picks afterwards.....because let's face it, NFL fans don't care if star players sexually coerce the help if they are good at football. Hell, they'll probably find a way to blame ownership for the actions of the player.

    That scenario is about as good as it could possibly be.
     
  8. Hank McDowell

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    The December 2020 allegation is especially troubling. That's not an allegation of something merely "inappropriate", it reads like something that could be a whole lot worse. Also disappointing is that it allegedly only happened just a few months ago. I don't know where this is headed, but like EVERYTHING else Texans related, it sure ain't good.
     
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  9. Nook

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    To the people wanting to know why the victim did not bring criminal charges, look no further than how sexual assault victims are treated. Kobe Bryant forcefully raped a woman to the point there were blood splatters and the woman that brought the criminal complaint was treated horribly to the point that her own therapists asked the state to drop the case.

    Filing a criminal claim for rape against a famous person is extremely stressful. The woman claiming she was sodomized claims she **** her own pants from the stress of it happening. I am not shocked at all no criminal case was brought.
     
  10. deb4rockets

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    That is one big reason I never understood why Kobe was memorialized as such a great man. To me, I always questioned whether he was just another scum rapist who got away with it by being rich.
     
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    There was a claim of sodomy?
    I saw the defecation part.
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    ....and even after that, knowing Kobe was a rapist, players and fans lobbied to have Kobe be the new NBA logo.
     
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    Tarnishing the reputation of Watson is obviously not in the near-term best financial or on-field interests of the team. But is it in the best interest long-term? It might be. Here’s why:
    1. The guy dishonored his contract, demanded a trade, smears the front office and ownership, and then starts talking about acceptable places to be traded to. Anyone of these things will be found offensive by the owner. ALL of them in aggregate is a declaration of war. Game on.
    2. The Texans ownership needs to maintain control over the franchise. Backing down to Watson opens the door for many players to try the same stunt in future seasons. Have to maintain hand.
    3. The integrity of contracts must be maintained. Without this, all teams lose significant value.
    4. Deterrent for future players acting out. Players want to engage in risky behavior with women that when made public would be damaging to the franchise? It might not be confidential for long.
    And finally there’s Pride. Texans ownership will not stand by and get attacked without counterpunching. “Winning” the dispute becomes the name of the game, consequences be damned. This is just human nature.
     
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    Only silver lining is if all of this proves to be false, DW4 wants out of the spotlight/controversy and moves forward with playing for the Texans. The more likely scenario is him doubling down and wanting a fresh start elsewhere.
     
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    I think this kind of behavior is pretty common with professional athletes, and for some reason Deshaun is being singled out. I'm going to be irresponsible and say that no I don't think Deshaun "forced" a woman to suck his ****. I don't think he committed rape. I do think it's possible that these women either didn't know what they were signing up for or some of them did and are taking advantage of the situation.

    Either way, this whole thing is bizarre. Houston Texans Football :)
     
  16. steddinotayto

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    Forgive my legal ignorance but could the inclusion of the NFL (or more specifically the Texans) mean that the organization/league knew about Watson's activities of flying women across the country, thereby holding said organization/league guilty as well?
     
  17. roxallways

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    Good Lord.....all of this is extremely disturbing. Football should be the last of Deshaun's concerns at this point
     
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  18. STR8Thugg

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    well that's trew.
     
  19. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Seems like the Police would investigate something like that no?
     
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