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Top 4 pick or Bust!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Trackwell, Jan 17, 2021.

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  1. RocketsLegend

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    I'm kind of lost with the pick situation. Rockets own their 2021 draft pick and also own Wizards 2021 first-round pick? What picks did they trade to OKC?

    Edit: The wizards pick is for 2023 and is portected
     
    #1621 RocketsLegend, Mar 13, 2021
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    15 l in a roll and we still not dead last. Jeezus
     
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    Count your blessings. The nba is rigged. Rockets are obviously keeping their pick. I highly doubt silver is going to let a team this trash and hopeless run out there another year
     
    #1625 jerryclark, Mar 13, 2021
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    If we dont get the number one pick like maybe 2-4....who likes Green?
     
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    sirjesse The Udoker has spoken!
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  10. RocketsLegend

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    what must happen in order for the Rockets to keep their pick and not trade up?
     
    #1630 RocketsLegend, Mar 14, 2021
  11. SRR21

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    End season 1-4 then get lucky and stay there.
     
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    I would like SGA for two FRP's, the 33rd pick plus Tate and call it a day. I admit I don't see OKC biting on it.
     
    #1632 saleem, Mar 14, 2021
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    Harden or Bust, funny.
     
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    How many teams have finished 1-4 and ended up 5th or higher due to the lottery balls in the past 10 years?
    2006 was the last time I was thrilled for the NBA draft
     
    #1634 conquistador#11, Mar 14, 2021
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    Current lottery rules (moving from 3 up to 4 lottery picks; reduced lottery odds for worst teams) have only been in place for a couple of seasons. Hard to pull historical precedent on these rules.
     
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    52% chance of staying Top 4, yes? So, could be a ‘coin flip’...
     
    #1636 xiki, Mar 14, 2021
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    No matter how you look at it you have to be extremely lucky for genuine success in the draft.

    1. You roll the dice for picks. Max odds possible for #1 pick is just 14%.
    2. Worst team odds of getting 1-4 just 52%.
    3. Odds are high pick will be either a bust or simply an average player. (Greg Oden, Fultz, Stromile Swift, CandyMan, Jay Williams, Robert Traylor, Thabeet, Anthony Bennett, Shawn Bradley, Kwame Brown, Darko and countless MORE)
    4. If the pick winds up being a winner odds of them being productive 1st or 2nd year are low.
    5. If you DO get the next LeBron James they can easily pull a Harden and force a trade to LA, NY etc.

    So if you beat the odds and get the pick you then must beat the odds for them to be productive, for that to happen reasonably soon and for them to be sufficiently satisfied to actually stay in Houston.

    This is why it's vastly more predictable to build the team through assets and negotiation.
     
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    My post brought Bimathug to the yard! This is like when Hallie Jackson retweeted me. My day here is done. Good night all.
     
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  19. Trackwell

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    I disagree with this- Default is we get a top 4 pick

    We need to be scouting as deep as possible in the draft regardless, but I look at this glass half full- not glass half empty -we have a 52% chance not 48%!!!


    Let’s get it
     
    #1639 Trackwell, Mar 15, 2021
  20. D-rock

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    On a happier note.

     
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