I haven’t studied this class enough , but I feel like he could go top 20 . But would probably not be top 10. He was taken 30th in his class , and has minimal NBA evaluation time . Has his physical profile changed more ? His skills gone to a higher level? It’s possible, I’m actually saying I do not know . there are likely a few blue chip guys that for sure round out the top 5 or so and then another big pack of 10-15 guys that he’d be in the same tier as . he can , of course , radically alter his stock in the coming months . It’s a good time to ask the question . Interesting topic .
Well, first Porter would be a junior in college so that would be held against him and temper his draft projection a little bit against 19 year olds in the draft. Second, his off the court issues would keep him outside the top 10. He has been suspended or kicked off the team at every level. That would scare off teams a great deal. Still, he would be the most productive player in college basketball and would lead the sport in scoring. My guess is he would go in the 13-19 range. If he didn’t have any off the court concerns he would go top 6. He wouldn’t go top 3 because of his age.
He was going to be a lottery pick before the league did background on him. His skill level is certainly high than when came out.
If Porter had a glowing review for his off the court issues, he would go top 6. If he were a year younger he could go top 3. His skill profile is extremely strong.
I wouldn’t go that far, it is fairly close to the NBA from an athletic standpoint. There are certain things you can see, such as the ability to get around players, etc.
as far as overall structure and actual game play, it's what I consider basically pick up games. The same level of play is there. Youre not going to see the riggers of detailed game play like you would at the next level. For the most part guys are there who aren't good enough to be in the league and other young kids who are still trying to make their way in and stay there. Everyone collectively knows that and its just a more formal summer league type atmosphere. Many just want to earn a small check while still playing some ball because there's literally nothing else going on for them. You can still see guys like Bobby Brown in the G-league just casually hooping
Honestly the best take for KPJ. I get that everyone is trying to hype him up as the next James Harden / next big thing, but that's probably because fans need some sort of hope or something. I would temper expectations until the kid starts seeing legit NBA competition before gauging anything.
Yes, as a rookie, he averaged 10/3/2. Against the G-League, he's doing really well. What I'm saying, is for people to not be too disappointed if KPJ turns out not to be the next big thing, despite some CFers hyping him up. KPJ isn't going to save our season or be the piece that we need to make it to the playoffs. As I finish this post, 40/85 voters think he should have been drafted within the first 5 picks. That should be franchise changing. Just don't be too upset if he turns out to be more Victor Oladipo than James Harden.
ohh, wilt harden is definitely not walking thru that door. maybe not again for decades here. but that 10min highlight reel, can't watch and not be mesmerized by the kid's talent level. like you said, whether he can put it all together to be productive or even stay on the court is another story. but just speaking on kid's pure talent, WOW i'd be happy if he just turns out something on nick van exel's level, or even cuttino. can't stand fukin loladipo tho!
Lets see the resume: Top 20 HS recruit, going into his age-21 year, giant hands, good wingspan, great ballhandler with suspect shooting, suspended indefinitely during his first year of college basketball, allegations of violence against a woman, avoiding a felony charge after initially being investigated, fairly public incidents displaying mental health struggles. Top 16, easily.
I cannot reconcile Cleveland giving him away for free. Unless Cleveland is the dumbest front office of all time, it does not make sense. Also notice how no one in the NBA circles or fanbases are really talking about it. When has a team ever gave up on a top 5 lottery talent after a year and then that pick becomes someone great? There are a lot more cases of teams realizing that a player sucks (Thomas Robinson, Terrence Williams) than there is of teams just giving up on talented headaches so early on in their career.
A lot of other teams' fanbases do talk about him. Also someone like Kevin Love saying that he was easily the most talented player on their roster with Sexton says a lot. Cav fans even readily admit he's more talented than Sexton.
I have yet to see a player who performed well in his rookie season on the court and then get kicked off due to off court issues. Thomas Robinson, TWill are examples of players that didn't do much on the court. Not really comparable to KPJ.
It is unfair to use 2021 draft for him cuz this class is really deep, like the 2019 draft KPJ wouldnt go top 5 in this class because he would have been a junior. The earliest he would go is top 6 and then discount his offcourt issues he would be late lotto at the earliest. If we are talking about the 2020 class though he would easily go top 10 issues and all. This class has like 7 dudes who project to be more than a role player lol.
