1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

The Harden doesn't have any help crowd is looking bad

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Pringles09, Feb 2, 2021.

  1. YOLO

    YOLO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2012
    Messages:
    46,688
    Likes Received:
    44,892
    of course it's going to be less of a burden. doesn't mean hes just going to come in and overtake all the good they've been doing just because of his past.
     
  2. lakersuck2

    lakersuck2 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2016
    Messages:
    3,074
    Likes Received:
    5,243
    Everyone who was whining about diversifying the offense for years should easily see what Blake brings to the Nets. Imagine this: Kyrie and Harden are lighting it up so the opponent goes small and switches everything to limit perimeter play. Now you have Blake to force a switch on a little guy in the post and do his shoulder shoulder shoulder baby hook for a few possessions straight to force a big man back in. Now the guards can cook again. For a minimum signing, there really is no risk and you get another wrinkle. Also, his athleticism is shot, and it has been for a while now. Buuuut unlike Russ, Blake knows that. In the last few years he's become a muuuch better shooter and is a very underrated passer especially from the high post. The fit isn't perfect in Brooklyn but there's a lot he can bring to the table for them if healthy.
     
    joshuaao and fckbandwagons like this.
  3. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    He went off because he shot so many 3's and made them.
     
  4. riko

    riko Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2014
    Messages:
    9,634
    Likes Received:
    16,083
    He has become a ok three point shooter. His role would be like Jeff Green. Small ball 5 .
     
  5. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    what does he bring as a roll player?

    Rebounding?
    Defense?
    Hustle?
    Scoring off the bench?

    He is shooting 37% overall and 31% on 3's what is he bringing to upgrade the Nets?

    Grant is shooting 43% overall and 37% on 3% on that same team.
     
  6. riko

    riko Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2014
    Messages:
    9,634
    Likes Received:
    16,083
    Size. We will see how it pans out. If he dosent they can just cut him. Not a big deal given he is making the minimum
     
  7. SuperMarioBro

    SuperMarioBro Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2006
    Messages:
    3,845
    Likes Received:
    1,525
    That's true, a decent few once-great players on sh!tty teams seem to re-blossom for a bit when they're moved. As you said, guess we'll see.
     
    riko likes this.
  8. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    He is shooting 31% Green is shooting 42%.

    So he is adding value as 3 point shooter?

    Green can put it on the floor and finish at the rim, he also can threaten a team vertically and can run the floor, Blake can't do any of that so why would he get those minute?

    Claxton can do that as well and also shoot the 3.
     
  9. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    The Nets are not gonna slow that offense down for a baby hook by Blake.

    Blake is not much of a shooter either he is shooting 31%, why would he play over Green?
     
  10. lakersuck2

    lakersuck2 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2016
    Messages:
    3,074
    Likes Received:
    5,243
    For the whole game? Of course not. For 5 minutes at a time just to force the defense to adjust? Sure. You have to stop thinking of Blake as a separate piece and more of as a support for KD, Kyrie, and Harden. Just having the option to do something different is valuable enough to spend a vet min on. If we're talking about a championship run, every little advantage you can accumulate is essential. Also, I'm willing to bet that Blake will at least be a 38% shooter in Brooklyn. He was taking a lot of Dipo type bricks in Detroit.
     
  11. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    No defense is gonna adjust for current Blake, they would love for the Nets to post Blake up.

    They have better support to those 3 players in Green, Claxton and DJ who all over things they need more than Blake.

    Why do they need a 38% percent shooter in Blake when they multiple people shooting over 40%.
     
  12. YOLO

    YOLO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2012
    Messages:
    46,688
    Likes Received:
    44,892
    I'll tipjar bet Blake doesn't average 38% from 3 by the end of the regular season with the Nets.
     
    lakersuck2 likes this.
  13. lakersuck2

    lakersuck2 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2016
    Messages:
    3,074
    Likes Received:
    5,243
    Sure let's do 10 to keep it cute. Just having Harden feeding him is gonna do wonders. The improved shot selection will seal it.
     
  14. YOLO

    YOLO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2012
    Messages:
    46,688
    Likes Received:
    44,892
    done
     
  15. peleincubus

    peleincubus Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2002
    Messages:
    26,717
    Likes Received:
    14,997
    Whatever his % is will most certainly increase on the Nets. He will also certainly try harder. The ole intrinsic value vs extrinsic value. Because 30 million or whatever he makes a year just wasn’t enough lol. It is true though. It’s hard to try much if your in pain for example and your on a world of suck which is the pistons. But by extension you can be on a team that beats other top players in the game like you used to in the past and boom effort level increased.
     
  16. YOLO

    YOLO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2012
    Messages:
    46,688
    Likes Received:
    44,892
    that's what some people want to assume. Typically doesn't work that way. What will happen is he'll have better looks and the shots taken are better but he's never been a good shooter. And 38% is pretty hard territory for a career non shooter. And there's a long list of examples to start with harden while he was here. But it's only $10 anyway just for fun as he said
     
    peleincubus likes this.
  17. YOLO

    YOLO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2012
    Messages:
    46,688
    Likes Received:
    44,892
    How many rockets do you see on here that were his expected rotational help :rolleyes:

     
  18. D-rock

    D-rock Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2006
    Messages:
    40,743
    Likes Received:
    64,232
  19. riko

    riko Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2014
    Messages:
    9,634
    Likes Received:
    16,083
    The Nets are rumoured to be in interested in a deal for Gorgui Deing . It’ll be Dinwiddies contract and other fillers like Tyler Johnson and probaly other pieces. I don’t see Memphis doing it given how good their backcourt already is with Brook and Morant
     
    D-rock likes this.
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,565
    Likes Received:
    38,790
    I 100% agree.

    DD
     

Share This Page