[Marvel TV] WandaVision (Vision and Scarlet Witch)

Finale was meh.

However, Wanda in tights never gets old.

 

They did reference the sorcerer supreme and how the scarlet witch is more powerful, so maybe it links into the dr strange movie that way.

 

I agree that'll happen, and she absolutely is.... but that's also why she'd be one of the "threats" he'd be tracking.

She's just the kind of thing the sorcerer supreme is tasked to deal with.

 

Yeah, that Quicksilver nothing burger reminded me how they ****ed up the Mandarin in Iron Man.

They got a balancing act where movie watchers can't be forced to know what's going on in TV world all while making TV interesting and epic to comic book levels.

 

Well, Wanda is an Avenger, so I would think Strange wouldn't have thought it necessary to come to Westview to help an Avenger take down a threat. As far as why Strange wouldn't come and see what Wanda was doing in the first place, to the city? Maybe it didn't register for him since no one was technically being 'hurt' by what Wanda was doing. Also, SWORD was on-site and the FBI had its eyes and ears (Jimmy) on the ground there too.

I think the whole '...even more powerful than the Sorcerer Supreme' line can give Strange's no-show a pass. Not every magical situation requires Strange, especially with Wanda already there. And who knows? Maybe Strange already knows Wanda's potential.

Not saying you're wrong for wondering where Strange was during all this, but I think his absence can easily be explained.

 

All potentially valid points.

There's also reason to think that Dr. Strange wouldn't know how powerful she was, this story was VERY loosely based on the House of M storyline where a much more experienced version of Dr Strange gets caught up in Wanda's global spell and spends months as a psychiatrist not realizing he was the sorcerer supreme.....and even after he's rescued from that and becomes himself again, he says that "there's no such thing as chaos magic".....so maybe she's just a blind spot for him.

The direction I'm hoping they take with it is that Dr. Strange was just far too busy with other things to even notice it going on. in the comics he frequently engages in ridiculously long meditation trances that can last over a month. To me, that's the easiest way to justify him not being there that would be true to the comics.

The reason you have to explain it though is because even Agatha Harkness sensed the crazy amount of magic being used, the sorcerer supreme would have as well....and he'd have beat her there unless there was something else keeping him occupied.

When it comes to Scarlet Witch being more powerful than the Sorcerer Supreme, it's true....sort of.

Both of their characters are glass cannons. Dr Strange could absolutely kill her if he wanted to, and she could kill him easily if she wanted to. Basically whoever did their thing first would defeat the other. The only difference is that her full potential dwarfs his.

Imagine it like 2 soldiers who both have weapons. One has an M4 rifle the other is manning an M2 50 caliber machine gun. The guy with the M4 can kill the guy with the M2 if he fires first and accurately, but his weapon is incapable of the destruction of the guy with the M2.

 

There is a One Shot (I miss those) called "All Hail the King" that retconned that years ago. (Your point stands of course)
Mandarin will be in Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings this summer (maybe?).

 

On one hand -- this is definitely something he should have been dealing with. On the other, he's Doctor Strange, he could have easily had his hands tied with some other threat to this reality. Also...since he's seen this timeline with the time stone, who is to say he hasn't seen these events and let them happen for a reason?

 

I'm still trying to figure out the meaning of this commercial:

Spoiler

 

I think Wandavision was executed well given what I believe were the primary objectives. They:
a) established the name "scarlet witch" and have a reason for other people to actually say it
b) restored Wanda to comic book level powers. I think it's tough to transition a sidekick character to a more important character and I think they did that. I think the other series' will struggle mightily with this. Wanda feels important, I don't think Falcon/Shehulk/Ms. Marvel etc will.
c) continued the magic/cosmic side of the universe which is vital for shifting fans away from the ironman/captain america mcu. The old mcu needed Tony's intelligence and Cap's leadership the new mcu will need Wanda's magic. The next saga has to be different, not just different people.
d) expanded the mcu to another genre (even if it was just half the series) which seems to be a plan with this many properties

The one thing I didn't like is basically the only problem I have with all mcu stuff is that nothing else matters but the main hero's character development. It's usually fine with disposable villains but Agatha will no doubt show up again to teach Wanda in some way. And, they basically just wasted Monica's character and hamfisted her gaining powers. I would have preferred her just making a cameo rather than being Wanda's stan for the series

 

Everybody has to have a black best friend, lol

 

You don’t think the Scarlet Witch can cast mind-control spells outside of a Hex/Westview?

I don’t think she has to create a Hex world in order to mind-control someone.

her “letting go” didn’t even mean to me she can’t keep her fake kids or fake vision as illusions without a Hex. Rather, realizing how mean it is to keep Westview in a trance, she decided it’s best to just let go entirely of her past, and let the dead be dead. I took the goodbye timed with the Hex collapsing through Vision, as her just letting the shrinking of the existing spell casting him away.

But I didn’t take it as her being unable to do another fake Vision without Westview....not meaning to say she ever would...just that surely her spell on Agatha doesn’t require the existence of a Hex World.

 

Kind of meh conclusion.

But holy hell her Scarlet Witch costume looked amazing.

 

Think that Agatha was miscast given she's a long term character. She's not on par with the Avengers as far as acting ability and I really don't think anyone cares about her because of the actress. She's almost too sitcommy. Like the character as a mischief sort, but not the actress. But I do think Wanda has long term appeal as does the white Vision, the kids, the evil sword guy, and the asian sword guy. Think they should get rid of the Thor comedian girl, as she too feels too sitcommy too.

Was it me or did it look like they filmed this on the back to the future lot. It kinda looked fake and too empty.

Overall it was good enough and had moments to hold interest, but it really didn't need 9 episodes to get there. Wanda held it together.

 

Oh man... Rhodey is the one that annoys me the most. He is a sidekick in the comics but instead of giving him his own personality of the badass marine war machine, he's just a weaker dumber Tony Stark with worse jokes.

 

• Unlike apparently most others, I am not upset about Evan Peters. It was simply 1) a joke & nod to fans and 2) admission that they will be deviating (at least somewhat) from Fox's X-Men cast. We don't need a Quicksilver, he's dead. It's fine.
  
• "Quicksilver" was just a regular resident of Westview? And Wanda gave him superspeed (and therefore strength) that easily? Really? Just like that? Bad and complicated (going forward) choice IMO... you're saying if a town is about to get attacked by.. I don't know... Namor? She can give everyone in the area Hulk strength to defend themselves?

 

Didn’t Agatha put a spell on him with the necklace.
But of course, look how powerful Wanda made fake Vision.

 

I think the way they'll explain that away is by leaning into the "Magic comes with a price and the bill comes due eventually" angle.

The Scarlet Witch has the power to completely warp reality to her wishes on a global scale, so you have to explain away why she can't just wipe out any threat on a whim, that doing so would make things worse in the end.

They kind of had to do that with the Flash in order to nerf his time travel abilities by having the Flashpoint storyline where him altering the past basically destroys the world.

 

Slightly off topic, sorry.

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