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What are your reasons for not going vegan?

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  1. donkeypunch

    donkeypunch Contributing Member

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    The horror at a vegan meat market

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  2. DonkeyMagic

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    Have you found a therapist yet ?
     
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    What do Vegans think about the other animals that eat animals? If this is ok, would it be ok if someone hunted and killed all their own meat?

    I'm not saying this to be an *******, I'm actually curious and don't really know any vegans that eat that way for humane reasons.
     
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  4. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    You think getting hit by an automobile moving at high speed is a nice way to go? ;)

    I've actually been moving steadily into a more Vegan-like diet, but I do think some fish and some poultry can be close to sustainable.
    I will probably always mix in some dairy, a few eggs, and some fish. As long as we have our current dog, I'm going to cook a chicken occasionally too. She, Mrs. B-Bob, and I all love a good bird.

    I agree with those saying the fake beef products are so processed as to be disgusting. Actually prefer the old-school "veggie burgers" b/c they weren't trying to fake it. (Of course I would most prefer an actual medium-rare burger... I've had a couple during the pandemic just to keep my spirits up).
     
  5. ThatBoyNick

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    I'm gonna call bull **** on this.

    Vegan means to a person whatever it means to a person on a personal level. In its strict sense, it means you don't eat animal products or by-products.

    Plant-based means you mainly eat plants but still may eat meat and whatever else.

    When I tell a waiter at a restaurant that I'm vegan it's because I don't want any animal products in my food, not because I'm attempting to define myself as a person.

    Vegan can be like a religion to someone if they choose (and some do...for varying periods of time), the same way anything can be like a religion to a person, sports, politics, music, pretty much any hobbies(collecting cards), activities (skating), lifestyle trends (minimalism), fandom of people (Elon) etc etc can take spiritual like impacts (in varying ways) in peoples lives.

    The health aspects of plant-based are naturally built into veganism, so you have that aspect, that's science b****.

    Then you have the ethics of eating animals aspect to it, now you can argue the subject of ethics, IN general, is purely metaphysical if you'd like, but I call bullshit on trying to separate the ethics of just killing animals as being metaphysical, but not other or all forms of ethics.
     
  6. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    What... what if someone can see their feet but not their dick? (asking for a bunch of y'all.)
     
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  7. Andre0087

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    So as long as I can see my dick and feet I'm good?
     
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    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Yes, but while standing.
     
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  9. ThatBoyNick

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    What if your hanging upside down?
     
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    There were animals residing where you built your house/apt. Why the **** isn’t your hypocrite borderline ass up in arms about that.

    Hindus etc have safe guarded animals etc for thousands of years prior to sjw like yourself doing it for attention. There’s a reason they are vegetarians and not vegans
     
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  11. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    What if my hanging upside down?

    What I do in the shadows is my business, pal.
     
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  12. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    OP, I think you've made this poster so mad that he swerved his car just now to hit extra animals on his way home. :oops:
     
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    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

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  14. LosPollosHermanos

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    Lol I love animals which is the irony, animal cruelty and shelters are some of the biggest causes I volunteer for and donate to. Humans as a whole are probably worse than animals. Most vegans are fine but The naive 20 year old white boys that call folks like JR smith entitled (OP) and judge others for an extreme and flawed way of thinking should probably be quiet. I was vegan for a couple of years and was around folks like him
     
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    It's basically the opposite of my diet. My body responds better to a keto style low carb diet that borders on a carnivore diet.

    I can see no reason to alter my diet, but I have nothing against those who prefer different diets so long as they work for them and they aren't foolish enough to think they are saving the world with it.
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Inhumane derives from in=not and humane= human. Since humans have always eaten meat and killed. I would say its humane to eat meat.

    I eat meat because it's completely natural and it tastes delicious. Since we barely care enough to do something about human suffering, I think animal suffering is the least of our worries.
     
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    Boiling animals and burning them alive etc (Chinese meat markets) should be something everybody should be concerned about.

    I don’t eat meat too much anymore but don’t judge those that do. Asking that it be done to minimize suffering should be ok. That’s the pragmatic view I’ve reached since civilization has, and is currently, will also continue* to eat meat
     
  18. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Sure, there is killing and there is needless torture. We don't approve of needlessly torturing animals.

    I think sport fishing is needlessly torturing animals. I also think hunting without actually eating what you kill is morally wrong. However I find nothing wrong with killing animals for food. It's by definition natural.
     
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    Agreed
     
  20. SuraGotMadHops

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    I'm smoking a brisket Saturday.
     
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