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TX mask mandate lifted soon?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by TWS1986, Mar 2, 2021.

  1. FranchiseBlade

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    And you believe that simply looking at states and the data when the states have a different populations, different population density, different travel in and out of states, different medical centers, testing availability and centers, is as valid as data from a controlled study?
     
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  2. FranchiseBlade

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    What? That makes no sense. So you think the way Taiwan reports their numbers would be equal to how Japan, or Israel, or South Korea, or Thailand report their numbers?
     
  3. adoo

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    ui wish that u'd stop playing dumb.

    Texas had a mask mandate. the COVID inflection rates had not gone up as much as before. that was one of the reason that Gov Wheel opted to end the mask mandate
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    because, for the most part, republicans are defined by their ability to distance themselves from democrats

    democrats are defined by their inability to accomplish or agree on anything, but that's a discussion for a different time
     
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  5. SuraGotMadHops

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    Not proven that the masks are responsible for that, there is data that shows increased vaccinations, seasonality, and developing herd immunity play a much larger factor than masks and lockdowns.
     
  6. adoo

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    conversely, there is no data that masks are not responsible for that

    i wish that you'd stop lying
     
  7. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    So.. you posted an article to prove your point, yet in the exact same article, it discusses a number of other studies that show the opposite.

    Did you even know that post of the article existed? Kind of disingenuous of you to post your proof without also mentioning the "anti-proof".
     
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  8. SuraGotMadHops

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    The fact that there are conflicting studies goes to show my original point that a lot of these NPIs are just guesswork. One study says one thing, another says something different. Nobody knows what works. It's guessing.
     
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    So it's guesswork? Gotcha.
     
  10. adoo

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    actually, it underscores your intellectually dishonesty
     
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    Quick comment on this. I'm not sure how this graph calculated their CLI percentage, but all it tells me is that individuals did not follow advice of health professionals and gathered with others for the holidays, thus it peaked in the December/January timeframe.

    When I look at raw data, which I've gotten from here:

    https://covidtracking.com/data/

    I did one quick calculation which is the Total Number of Cases/Estimated Population of the state. Simple straightforward calculation. I got the following results:
    • Florida - 8.9% of population infected
    • Texas - 9.2% of population infected
    • Virginia - 6.8% of population infected
    • Maryland - 6.3% of population infected
    • Washington DC - 5.9% of population infected
    Based on those numbers, it appears that Virginia/Maryland/DC have done a much better job of containing the virus than Florida and Texas. For reference NY and California were at 8.4% and 8.8% respectively, so they aren't doing so hot either when compared to Texas/Florida.

    I'm sure there are better ways to do this, but this is what I could do quickly for now. I just hate that you keep claiming that NPIs don't do anything to slow the spread, obviously wrong, based on taking those examples on the graph and doing a comparison of where they are at this point. California and NY, they had their issues when this pandemic started and didn't get **** under control until a few months later, I'd be interested in seeing the data after that time frame, but have no idea how to get a breakdown. I'm working too right now, which prevents me from diving to deep into this. Also, if officials estimate that we need 75% infections to reach herd immunity, we are nowhere near that, even for states that remained fully open, so it seems that has been worthless as well, besides causing more deaths. Ultimately from the data, it seems from those infected, on average 1-2% of those individuals die. So I guess in the idiotic goal of reaching herd immunity, Florida has failed, while killing more people. Kudos I suppose.
     
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  12. TWS1986

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    Quit making logical sense! Repugs don't want to hear that!
     
  13. bobrek

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    Yet, you never mentioned that. You simply pointed to the first part of the article you posted as your proof.

    You are now "guessing" that nobody knows what works, yet you admittedly say NPIs don't work.
     
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    NPIs havent been proven to work
     
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    Because of political leaders like Trump and Abbott. 70% of Republican said hell yea, mask up. But the party leaders listen to the loud and crazy 30%.
     
  16. Kim

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    Asian countries aren't a monolith. And neither are US states when it comes to accurate reporting.
     
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    Seriously lol.

    Look at what Florida tried to do. They had a fired employee reporting the data since Florida wanted to hide it.
     
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    Especially Florida, one of the states he tries to use to show mask wearing doesn't work.
     
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    Masks work.

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  20. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    The article YOU posted cites studies that show they work.

    The comment you recently responded to me with was that you guess nobody knows. And now you definitively say they don't.
     
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