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ScheftBomb! Watson formally requests trade

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Hey Now!, Jan 28, 2021.

  1. Nook

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    Agreed, but the Texans need to decide if they want to have a quarterback leading their team that clearly doesn't want to play with them........ and how will the fans respond.
     
  2. Dgn1

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    Jack Easterby burner account detected! Bro you actually support this bullsh*t?? You know you can be a fan and still not cosign on all this.
     
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  3. Dgn1

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    Fair enough, let's see who continues to look the fool. Watson or Cal and Easterby led Texans. Who would you bet your money on?
     
  4. Nick

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    I don't think it matters to the front office. They hold on to him till they get the value he's worth and in the mean time don't have to pay him... or they hope his competitive desire to play leads to him to some revelation/divine intervention that he was spiritually blessed to play for the Texans (least likely).

    They still believe they'll always have fans. There is still a lot of blind faith/followers that will support the team (GOP) no matter what they do.

    As far as the concern over value, he's not going to lose much over a year. His value has grown in just the short off-season as the "legend" of Deshaun has been popularized. Maybe in 3 years he will... and by that time, the Texans either have legit young talent or an entire new ownership/front office...
     
  5. Nick

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    The Texans already look the fool... that's obvious. Each hit piece by the media makes them even more the fool. They won't look "more" foolish by forcing Watson to hold-out/give up his salary.
     
  6. JayZ750

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    I'm not moving on to something else. He's still being unprofessional. If you can't figure out why, after signing one of the largest contracts in NFL history, his actions are unprofessional at the moment, then you probably have never worked in a professional environment.

    Lol... one of the worst analogies i've ever heard. Way to completely gloss over the fact that DW basically had a man crush on BOB the whole time, and signed one of the biggest contracts in NFL history.

    Here's a better analogy. Husband adores wife. Gives her what she wants. Buys her super expensive things. Wife says thanks... oh I btw I REALLY REALLY like that thing there. So husband goes heavy on that gift (the gift is Bill O'brien btw. he was formally named full time GM 2 weeks after the Chiefs loss, after DW crazy glowing praise of him). But the gift really sucks. It breaks, and has no resale value. Husband throws gift away. The marriage isn't as perfect as it once seemed. Wife asks for another gift. Husband says "i'll think about it, and take your opinion into account." Husband buys wife a DIFFERENT gift. Wife is pissed, is ready to leave the marriage, and wants to take as many assets in the divorce as she can.

    ^ obviously ALSO not a great analogy, but MUCH more accurate of what happened.

    The idea that DW not getting EXACTLY his guys... AFTER the guy he previously liked was a WALKING DISASTER, is akin to being cheated on is so insane, it's crazy.

    Which NFL players have said to a team "hire this GM and COACH" and it happened??

    The idea that people are miffed that the Texans hired Korn Ferry and then didn't take their opinion - OMG!! - is hilarious. People should be miffed that they hired Korn Ferry in the first place, not that they didn't take their opinion. Korn Ferry is the same group that has helped them hire every other horrible front office person.

    All of this social media push the last month... that's him/his group. From his direct tweets, to his "trainers" tweets, etc. Again, one of those things, if you don't think that's him passively aggressively reaching out to say what he wants.... then you haven't been paying attention to sports twitter for the last 5 years, where basically this is how professional athletes communicate now.

    If by direct, you mean a cursory short call to the head coach, sure, lol.

    Imagine any other job, where, even if you're a rockstar, you sign one of the biggest contracts ever in the industry, and then 6 months later, your communication with your employers is reduced to "ok, i'll give you a brief call"... and describing that as direct communication or professional.

    But sure... go ahead and point out - "he did DIRECTLY talk to the head coach". You got me there!!! All good now, clearly he's being a real professional now!!!

    ughh... that his agents put in a formal request and he re-iterated in his brief convo with Culley... doesn't mean he isn't ALSO conducting his business via twitter. Do you have twitter? Have you been on sports twitter ever? Lol. What's next... Dame Lillard's tweets about the TWolves coach hire (Finch) wasn't Dame expressing anything to anyone in the NBA??

    Yes, of course it would make a difference. Why is that complicated? I guess you'd have been ok if he requested the trade the day after he signed the contract??

    Of course, ever day (well, season) we get further and further from his contract extension, it's a more and more reasonable request.

    JJ Watt's request was perfectly reasonable. DW otoh, just signed a mega extension, AFTER backing the ****up previous head coach/GM so much that the team didn't get rid of him until he had completely gutted the future, then had a boner for a potential HC that can't get hired by ANY team and another HC who, unless DW goes to the team and they make some REALLY savvy personnel moves, will likely be a failure with the Jets.

    The Jets are one of his preferred teams? The Jets!?!?! Lol. Everyone's like the Texans are a dumpster fire!! Worst organization in football!!! The Jets... y'all realize the Jets are one of the worst organizations in football the last decade and were worse than the Texans were last year?

    Holy ****... that's EXACTLY how the NFLPA negotiated the f'ing CBA.

    Now, I'm not saying DW should just shut up and play. For one, im not getting drawn into that mess. For two, I think every player, like every employee, should have the ability to have upfront, frank, conversations with their employer and if things aren't working out, do their best to mend fences or work out the best exit. For three, surely the KEY employee will have more say.

    But YES, the way NFL player contracts work is, they are non guaranteed and can be terminated at any time by the team/employer, and the player can't just get up and walk to another team. Absolutely, lol.

    You know there was an easy way for DW to be on a different team in the very near term future, right?
     
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    There could be some underlying "collusion" by owners/commisioner to try and curtail any future players attempting similar actions.

    The NFL does not want to turn into the NBA. They're going to continue to ensure non-guaranteed contracts with even further penalties should players decide to take it upon themselves to try and get out of them.

    Yes, its not fair to some players... especially in a sport where every single person is one play/hit away from their careers ending... but thus so is the obsession with this country with the NFL that they literally will consume any version of the product that has always shat on the players each/every step of the way.

    McNair's "inmates running the prison" comment wasn't earth-shattering... its literally how every single owner feels.
     
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  10. fchowd0311

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    Can you remind me of the value of the contract Watson signed 4 months ago? We need to feel sympathy for him?

    He knew the culture situation then. It was exactly the same. In fact it was AFTER they traded Hopkins for chump change.

    So obviously maximizing his net worth was more important than principles and he gets to deal with those consequences by being stuck here and quite frankly in the grand scheme of life, those consequences are rather insignificant. Oh no he has to play a sport for millions of dollars a year for a team he isn't fond of. How will he cope?

    I can understand Watson's desires to leave because yes, this organization is run horribly, but sympathy for him is non-existent.
     
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  11. JayGoogle

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    And you know, if Watson was a DE or TE or anyone but a QB I don't think we'd be having this discussion.

    I think smaller markets are terrified of Watson setting this precedent here. Nothing stops Trevor Lawrence from playing 2-3 seasons in Jacksonville, signing a big deal, then demanding to go to whatever city his heart desires to be in.
     
  12. LabMouse

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    Let the man go, you idiot Carl. Smart person just do not want to work with the foolish boss, you can see this in your daily life unless you want to a loser too, then you can stay with this team for money only.
     
  13. Nick

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    Agreed... QB's in the NFL are the #1 stars. They're the ones who when they're good, stay with franchises for their entire careers... and in some cases play way past the average age of most NFL players.

    If there ever was a position equivalent to what NBA superstars are, it would be the QB. NBA superstars can instantly make any team go from awful to very good. QB's are very similar in their effect on the game.

    While you usually cannot win a title in the NBA without at least one star... I guess it is possible to occasionally win a SB without a star QB... but its a helluva lot easier to contend when you have one.

    I know the media wants it to happen... all other fan bases that covet Watson want it to happen... and a kings ransom in return would actually help speed up the Texans rebuild. However, I do not think all owners around the league would be pleased if players are able to force their way out of bad situations, especially right after they signed a contract extension.

    And in the end... the owners, and their crony-like desires to always maintain full control over the players... are all that matters.
     
  14. primtim24

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    We have no proof whatsoever that the Texans listened to Deshaun Watson in relation to extending B.O.B. Bill Obrien went 9-7 three years in a row with Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brian Hoyer, Brock Osweiler, then brought in a stud in Deshaun Watson. They could've easily made the decision to extend him based on that.

    Without Deshaun getting hurt, he practically won the division 4 straight seasons. I don't think him getting extended should be blamed on Deshaun and "publically vouching for him".

    And no one was going to trade for an oft injured, PED's, expiring contract WR.

    Also, as we can now see JJ is being offered LESS than what he was making here....meaning, that teams weren't willing to pay that price for him. Plus he's kinda earned that opportunity.

    You just seem pissed off at the team (no one can fault that) but you don't seem to be using many facts in your rant...Lol
     
  15. Nook

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    LMFAO Sure Texans.
     
  16. Icehouse

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    I 5000% co-sign the team holding firm and not trading Watson simply because he wants out.
     
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    Let's see if he's willing to sit out entire seasons during his prime years and tank his legacy.

    I'm willing to grab the popcorn to find out.
     
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    **** ya. This would be horrible precedent and an absolute disaster for fans of small market teams if Watson gets his way. His diva ass can party with Mia Khalifa while his teammates work their asses off this training camp.
     

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