source on nothing getting passed? everything i'm seeing says the bill will be passed by end feb? (checks go out later)
No source, it's just a 28 day month, I guess it's possible but we got like 55 hours left for it to clear house and senate.
He in fact told people they would go out immediately if Georgia won, it was his sales pitch to get Georgians to vote, and they did, Dems won and Biden got a full house. Checks should have been in people's bank account mid-Feb.
That's not how reconciliation works - we've known the timeline since Biden was elected. It's a multi-step process. Both the House and Senate voted on the overall numbers a few weeks ago, then each House committee has to draft detailed legislation for each element of the bill. The goal was to pass it in the House around the end of this month. Then the Senate has to take it up and go through the Parliamentarian process to see what's allowed and what's not. Then the Senate makes adjustments. Then two chambers reconcile their bills. Then they vote and presumably pass it. The goal has always been March 14th - which is when the current round of unemployment benefits expires. This wasn't a failure - it's exactly how the process was designed and meant to be. Passing bills through reconciliation (especially $2 trillion ones) is not like waving a magic wand and taking a single vote. It's a time consuming process by design. This is another example of where understanding governing actually matters.
This would literally have been physically impossible under reconciliation. The only possibility for that would have been regular legislation with at least 10 GOP Senators' support.
So literally 3 weeks from inaguration day and the change of Senate control? LOL no - I don't know if that would be possible even if they weren't using reconciliation and didn't have an armed terrorist attack and attempeted coup on Jan 6.
not to mention that McConnell and the GOP dragged their feet on handing over control in the Senate via the power sharing agreement
All this 50-50, reconciliation etc etc. With Joe "Uh, Democrat?" Mnuchin, isn't it more like 49.5 (D) - 50.5 (R)?
When has Manchin ever went home and said he cared about the conservative angle? Can you tell me what happens to WV labor market if it rises to 15 dollars because that's what his argument is about. I am not even saying he is correct but stop slandering the guy by saying what he cares about.
Alright so I remember reading into how long it should take around the time when Biden took office and I'm trying to see where the disconnect is on why it's taking longer (and why you guys think it's reasonable), the part I was missing the that reconciliation can only be done once a year and the relief bill is much larger than just the stim checks, I didn't understand why a stim check reconciliation bill wasn't just executed on its own immediately to get them out as quick as possible but if reconciliation can only be done once a year and they want to pack their only shot then it makes more sense. Biden shouldn't have alluded to the stim checks going out immediately with this in mind the whole time, though.
If Americans get the $1,400, extension on unemployment benefits, and additional small business relief, I think they will understand it was worth the wait. At least the Democrats have a hard deadline to avoid having individuals go without extended UEI. My hope is that federal minimum wage increase makes it in there, even if it's true a compromise. I rather avoid having to fight this later on and not getting anywhere. This is the democrats chance to truly make an impact on the electorate.
I think at one point, because Trump and some GOP Senators were coming out in support of the checks, the hope was that maybe they could get a big package through regular order (McConnell was just not willing to bring it up). At least, that was the campaign slogan hope - I don't think Dems in Congress actually ever thought anything would go through that way. Not sure if Biden did or not. That said, candidates make exaggerated promises in campaigns all the time. I'm pretty sure Bernie said he'd get Medicare for All done and criticized Warren for being too slow in saying she would try for it by year 3. But there was a 0% chance that would ever pass even if he became President. Campaigns are known for big promises that never are going to happen. In this case, it was just a matter of timing rather than actual policy.
Its becoming increasingly clear everything you argue comes from talking points and sources you agree with. Major is here trying to actually give you debate and you are saying don't give me the BS? Really. You have yet to refute what he has said and just want to take the debate to what moderates accept and the progressive talking points. 15 dollars is a compromise from 24 dollars? Really? Do you want to explain how they got that figure and why we should be using that as a measuring stick?
That would be the min wage if compensation kept up with productivity. https://public.tableau.com/views/Tr...ay_count=n&publish=yes&:origin=viz_share_link
https://cepr.net/this-is-what-minimum-wage-would-be-if-it-kept-pace-with-productivity/ Like I said before it's not a sole indication of what the wage should be as a lot of productivity increases are due to technological advancement in manufacturing processes.
Dude I can criticize Joe Manchin based on the merit of his beliefs. That's what people do with polticians. He should be embarrassed with the **** condition his state is in with one of the lowest median wages in the nation.
