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James Harden's Brooklyn Nets

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by jerryclark, Jan 13, 2021.

  1. wekko368

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    Again, do you consider Curry's off-ball gravity to be "playmaking"? It's a yes/no question.
     
  2. riko

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    Yes but is it more important or effective then hardens ability of running an offense? And are you with a straight face saying Curry is a better playmaker then harden?
     
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    I mean I guess it would be nice for him either way. But I personally would be satisfied with it tbh.
     
  4. vator

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    All that negative talk damaged his reputation to some extent and his public perception not just in Houston, but among other fanbases. I'm on a few other sites, mostly just lurking, but Denver fans, Boston fans, Heat fans, etc. were saying that they were afraid to trade for Harden because he wasn't a "culture fit." A perennial MVP candidate that has carried mediocre rosters to the playoffs every year, and yet now people were questioning if they should trade guys like Tyler Herro and Michael Porter Jr. for him.

    There were some fans that adamantly wanted James, were outspoken about it, and are pissed now because they spent a month arguing with people trying to convince them that it was a no-brainer trade to make, but plenty of people were not confident that taking him out of the Houston situation would magically make him a good samaritan because of all the slander and salacious reporting. The narrative being pushed was was that he was a coddled spoiled diva who is also a bad teammate that is also unlikely to fit into your team's offense because it's his way or the highway. The best offensive player in the NBA for years is somehow going to make your offense worse. Laughable. You even had that scrub on Boston's team, Semi Ojeleye come out and say he wasn't sure if Harden would fit in with Celtics. Now they're 15-15.
     
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  5. wekko368

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    I do think Curry's playmaking is more effective than Harden's.
     
  6. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    what do people even mean by that?

    he works hard on his game and continues to improve his game, makes everyone around him better, did everything humanely possible and asked of him for the teams success...
     
  7. riko

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    That’s your opinion.. but currently harden is widely regarded as the best point guard/playmaker in the league. But you can have your opinion
     
  8. Loneyroy7

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    This is what blind homerism looks like people.
     
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  9. wekko368

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    Absolutely. It's not like Curry's playmaking has been the engine for 3 rings and 5 consecutive finals appearances, right?
     
  10. Ramo$e

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    Curry can shoot and draw doubles. That's it. I'll be the first to yell Harden is a team cancer and a flopping cry baby but to say Curry can manufacture offense on a whim for his teammates is just false. Hardens not Nash but definitely better than Curry at finding his teammates. If Curry did he probably would be the greatest all time. He just not big enough to create the looks Harden does for his teammates. Granted the whole offense went through Harden so have to account for that. Warriors run plays for open shots for Klay and Curry. Their offense is looking for shot for them instead on one guy looking to create for everyone. Take it as you will.
     
  11. vlaurelio

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    how? because he won a chip with another superstar?
     
  12. wekko368

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    Most people have an outdated idea of "playmaking" and only look at assists.
     
  13. wekko368

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    Drawing double-teams is a form of playmaking. Even though it doesn't show up in the box score, that's manufacturing offense.
     
  14. riko

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    So harden dosent control the pace of a game or isn’t a floor general or make his teammates better or hasn’t improved the Nets field goal percentage or put them on pace to be the greatest off all time ? He just throws cheap assists? Wow
     
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    You seem to be struggling with understanding what the term playmaking means.
     
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  16. Ramo$e

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    Harden is a great play making SG. Not a PG. PG never look to shoot first.
     
  17. riko

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    And harden dosent draw doubles lord al mighty. Jesus
     
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  18. Loneyroy7

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    So Harden draws doubles AND leads the league in assists? Way to destroy your own argument lol.
     
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  19. riko

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    You might want to watch a few Nets games. Harden is actually playing pass first
     
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  20. Ramo$e

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    I guess if you squint hard enough. If that's the case it's easy to see Harden likely has a higher success rate at actually completing said manufactured offense.
     

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