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Biden Slams China for Muslim Genocide

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by dachuda86, Feb 21, 2021.

  1. dachuda86

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    Just kidding. He doesn't give a ****.

     
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    What were the stances from Trump on the Uygher Genocide? Was it the Trump administration's increasing of our trade deficit with them, that taught them a lesson? What were his public statements on the Genocide? What is Biden doing differently regarding the trouble plaguing the Uygher?
     
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    And what about Obama's stance on things with China? Oh that's right. Neither of them are the president. Hey let's discuss Bill Gates' opinion. Oh wait he wasn't even elected.

    Biden is the president. Albeit elected in a dubious manner...

    So I take it you too don't give a **** about a modern day version of the holocaust. Got it. Go back to sleep. A Democrat is president right?
     
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    He's kind of rambling there, but he was trying to say if Xi thinks he won't speak out against those atrocities, Xi is wrong.
     
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  7. Amiga

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    whaz? he's talking to himself? :D

    Biden knows his sh*t and you can infer that he's going to be practical about it. He is stating why China is doing what she's doing and why the US will speak out against it. You might not like that he's not yelling at the top of his lungs about bad bad China, but I prefer a leader that understands more than one that just scream.

    The fact that Da Chuda not only doesn't get it but think this is a gotcha moment shows lack of understanding.
     
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    I can see Biden trying to be pragmatic about the situation but at the very least he can say that what China is doing to the Uighers is diametrically opposed to American values.

    So he can say that Xi Jingping is followingthe cultural norms of his people but he should make a clear divide there with American values.
     
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    The view from Asia isn't that Biden will be easy on the PRC.
    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dip...ns-joe-biden-signals-tougher-line-beijing-key
    US-China tensions: Joe Biden signals tougher line on Beijing with key appointments
    • Asia experts and veteran advisers from the former Obama administration are among picks for roles across departments
    • President has warned of ‘extreme competition’ with China and the change in tone from the Obama era is unambiguous, analyst says
    US President Joe Biden
    has chosen a slew of China specialists for key positions in his administration, signalling a shift in resources to continue Washington’s tougher approach against Beijing in a renewed “pivot to Asia”.

    The appointments across departments include Asia experts and veteran advisers from the former Barack Obama administration, but reflect the deepening bipartisan consensus for a more hardline policy to compete with an increasingly aggressive China. Biden’s cabinet picks, including US Secretary of State Antony Blinken, have said China represents the greatest strategic threat to the United States.

    Sarah Kreps, a professor of government and law at Cornell University, said the new administration’s team has indicated it will chart a different path in China policy, with
    Biden warning of “extreme competition”
    compared to Obama’s efforts for a strategic partnership between the countries.
    “All of the signs coming out of the administration are that even if many of the individuals are the same as a decade ago, the policies will not be,” she said. “The specifics are still unclear but the change in tone from the Obama administration is unambiguous.”

    Biden last week announced the launch of
    a new China task force under the Department of Defenc
    e to review US strategy towards China, which he said would require a “whole-of-government effort, bipartisan cooperation in Congress, and strong alliances and partnerships”.

    US Secretary of Defence Lloyd Austin has said he would put a “laser-like focus” on ensuring a competitive edge over China, and would push back on Beijing’s efforts to be a dominant world power.

    Ely Ratner, a China hand who served as then vice-president Biden’s deputy national security adviser,
    was tapped to lead the China task force as a special assistant to Austin
    . Last summer, Ratner co-wrote a commentary calling for multiple US strategies on China, including blocking Beijing’s hi-tech authoritarianism and its dominance in the South China Sea, while cooperating in areas such as
    climate change
    . It also urged a boost to innovation in the US, and building international coalitions to deal with China on trade and
    human rights
    .
    “A new and different era of competition between the United States and China is dawning,” the piece argued. “Washington needs to update its mindset as well.”

    Also at the Pentagon is deputy secretary of defence Kathleen Hicks, who described China as the “pacing challenge of our time”, as well as deputy assistant secretary Michael Chase, who researched Chinese military modernisation at the think rank Rand, and chief of staff Kelly Magsamen, former principal deputy assistant secretary of defence for Asian and Pacific security affairs.

    In the State Department, the greater focus on China has been led by Blinken, who has
    endorsed former US president Donald Trump’s tougher approach against Beijing
    but has advocated for a path that focuses more on US allies and working within multilateral frameworks.

    The team also includes Mira Rapp-Hooper – who has written on how Washington can recapture military and economic primacy to counter China and Russia – as a senior adviser on China in policy planning, and former lead negotiator of Obama’s
    Iran deal
    Wendy Sherman – who has described the US and China as the “central relationship of our time” – as deputy secretary of state.

    Melanie Hart – Biden’s pick for China policy coordinator serving the undersecretary of state for economic growth, energy and the environment – co-wrote a report in October for the Centre for American Progress think tank on a comprehensive US strategy to counter Beijing’s industrial subsidies and Chinese telecoms giant
    Huawei Technologies
    .
    “Thus far, the United States has largely overlooked the market-distorting industrial policies that Beijing uses to make Huawei the global front runner. This must change,” the report said.

    On the security side, the National Security Council (NSC) has also been bulked up by China specialists who have been vocal about the China challenge. Kurt Campbell,
    the chief architect of Obama’s “pivot to Asia” strategy
    , will be Biden’s senior official for the Indo-Pacific at the NSC. Campbell and Rush Doshi – Biden’s pick for China senior director on the NSC – co-wrote a piece for Foreign Policy in January that advocated for “serious US re-engagement” in Asia, including with more US military and intelligence partnerships in the region and a “conscious effort to deter Chinese adventurism”.
    Jake Sullivan
    , Biden’s national security adviser, has called for a “chorus of voices” with allies to push back against China, stronger ties with European and Asian partners, and more US government investments in emerging technologies to compete with China.

    Also at the NSC are director for China Julian Gerwitz, a modern Chinese historian who has written about China’s economic reforms, and Laura Rosenberger, senior director for China at the NSC and an Obama administration adviser, who has been a vocal critic of Beijing’s interference in US politics and Chinese propaganda during
    the coronavirus pandemic

    On the economic side of government, US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen has said the US is prepared to “use the full array of tools” against “abusive” Chinese practices, and US Secretary of Commerce Gina Raimondo has criticised Chinese actions as “anticompetitive, hurtful to American workers and businesses, coercive”.
    Katherine Tai
    , Obama’s chief counsel for China trade enforcement, will be Biden’s top trade negotiator, a key role given the ongoing trade war between the two powers.

    Meanwhile on the world stage, US ambassador to the United Nations nominee Linda Thomas-Greenfield has
    pledged to counter China’s “authoritarian agenda”
    across the UN. Her deputy ambassador will be Jeffrey Prescott, who was deputy national security adviser and senior Asia adviser for Biden when he was vice-president and is a noted China hand who founded the Yale Centre Beijing.

    Prescott told Reuters in October that immediate consultation would be needed to “identify areas where we can bring collective leverage on China”.

    “The failure of the Trump administration has been to go it alone,” he said. “And that has given China an escape hatch.”
     
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    He just stated that in the CNN town hall meeting.

    The mass media is wrong here. In implying THAT THIS is China's *governmental* culture norm, Biden is saying this is who they are. That message is damaging when you think about it. A cultural norm and not gov short term tactical policy is very hard to resolve. The rest of the world should note who they are and to proceed with that state of mind.
     
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    Will he stand up for Daryl Morey if he tweets?
     
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    Biden was doing his thing where he sort stumbles on his words, but anyone being objective (Da Chuda is not) knows that he's talking about how Xi will still work with the US on the things they can while the US & Biden is holding firm on their stances against things like the One Child Policy, Hong Kong, etc.

    I know Trumpers want to beat their chest about China even though they are hypocrites who support an overthrowing of Democracy here obviously, but beat their chest like hypocrites about Hong Kong, but the fact is, it's not in the US's interest to NOT have productive dialog with China. What's different about Russia is Russia is openly attacking our Democracy, and openly threatening Europe when it tries to expand its reach into the Baltic States which undermines peace in Europe and the world. If China is in a better place with Biden where they understand those lines to cross that they did not with Trump, or took advantage with Trump, and where Putin CLEARLY does not respect, then that's a good thing.

    But for the Trumpers like DaChuda and Texx, etc. you cannot support Autocracy here in the United States, and then b**** about China, or a Democratic President not going to war with China to force them into being a Democracy. You are F-ing Hypocrites and nobody should take you seriously until you apologize for supporting a what would be un-elected Dictatorship.
     
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    You said a bunch of crap not related to my question. I'm asking if this is a change in policy from the U.S. or not.
     
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    Why do I feel that this clip doesn’t show his complete answer? Was there more?
     
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    I'm a whiz with numbers, not grammar. :)
     
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    random time to drop one of these

     
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    Genocide is a disgusting and idiotic lie manufactured by Trump Nazi scumbags who are both Muslim haters and Chinese haters. Look at Xinjiang, there is no half million deaths due to Covid19, no power outage due to storms, no terrorists attacks for more than 4 years. Biden knew it was not right to swallow Trump's ****.
     
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    Shoot! He might not do anything about China. China Joe, mannnn.

    Riot the Capitol? Nooo, yall go riot China and get sweet beautiful justice. Patriots assemble. March on.
     
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    Supporting Members > Non Supporting Cheapskate trolling freeloaders
     
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    Salute to Clutch for allowing the poors.
     

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