Curry has done a good job with the hand he has been dealt. No need to diminish or undersell his ability to carry a ok ball club. Curry is not a top 5 or even 7 player anymore but he can still carry a team to tje playoffs
i agree, i have to admit im generally suprised at his level this year. Still not better than harden to me tho
The only reason you would not trade tate for Wiggins is the salary Wiggins is a better basketball player hands down, Wiggins . issue is where he was drafted and the contract. I like Tate very much but he is not as good as Wiggins. Tate is much more like Paschal who I think is better. Boy we sure like to overate our own guys. Oubre has gotten off to bad start but he is still a plus player and much better than House.
Yea let’s act like league experience and defense does not matter. We can revisit this in 2 years, i bet you Tate will contribute a lot more to winning than wiggins will in his entire career.
They're pretty much letting Green run the point whilst Curry plays off the ball. I mean, he is that kind of player, so it can work. The problem is, I don't think having Green running the point is going to benefit them in the long run. But, he's playing great. I'm not surprised he shooting well because he's one of the best shooters of all time.
I don't think Green will make the HOF. I do think Green is clearly an All NBA player and amongst the best in the game at certain things, and that you don't need to be able to carry a load offensively to be great as your post notes. Do you think GS would win without others doing the things Curry sucks at, aside from scoring? Do you realize you need folks to play defense and rebound to win? Green doesn't need Curry to be great. He is an impactful player, just not an impactful scorer.
What? You asked me would I trade Tate for Wiggins and yes I would in a heartbeat if the salaries are even I would love to Wiggins as the 4th option on a great team. So asked and answered and Wiggins is a plus defender so I don't know what you are talking about there, he is a better than Tate who can't guard quick wings.
wiggins has a worse Defensive and a worse offensive rating than Tate. But i see there’s no point arguing this one with you. Wiggins is a keeper, lol.
And those ratings mean what in short sample size while Wiggins is playing much more. It says a lot about you and your arguments that you want to summarize everything I said to Wiggins is a keeper. Step your game up son.
Wiggins is averaging 32 minutes, Tate is averaging 29 minutes. big deal. Arguments in a debate with you are useless because you decided that you're always right and will never accept defeat even when it's painfully obvious to everyone else. But I'll try. Wiggins a plus defender: https://thesportsrush.com/nba-news-...exposes-warriors-forwards-lackluster-defense/ Yes, its from 2017. But overall he still isn't a good defender as shown not only by multiple advanced metrics but also by eyetest. Being long and athletik alone doesn't make you a good defender. BBALL IQ matters. Tate can't defend quick, elite players? I'd imagine Lillard would qualify as a quick and elite player. Tate has a better eFG%, more steals, more rebounds, better defensive rating and a better offensive rating. He (that one even surprised me) also shoots better from the line. So there's one thing left, and that's the only thing that would suggest that Wiggins is a "better" player than Tate right now, and that's PPG. The flashy number that gets guys like you who have no eyetest all excited and wet. Yes, Wiggins does average 17 PPG to Tate's 9 PPG. But as mentioned before, it's on inefficient ISO midrange chucking, while Tate's point come within the flow of the game. There's no reason to believe Tate wouldn't achieve similar numbers if we were to post him up a couple times a game. But why would we, it's not necessary and would most likely make his eFG% drop. Maybe into Wiggins territory? Who knows. So there is my stepped up Game. Ready to admit you were wrong yet?
I have to say that I am impressed with Curry. I was among the doubters who did not believe he could lead this team to the play offs. But he is still playing amazing. That being said I believe Harden is the better player, and I think Harden can do more with less than Curry. That is not to downplay Curry, he is a great player. However I do not trust either in the play offs to do it alone (but of the current players I only trust Lebron to do that). But with a very good supporting cast they both are good enough to be the best player on a championship team.
I mean, look at the records this year outside of the top 4 in the west....Its a weird year. Fact of the matter is, he's the best player on the team and he's got them in playoff contention. Not saying the team is gonna win it all, but he's carrying them, no doubt.
He's carrying them to a 500 record something Harden only did once in 8 years and that's with a coaching change. The original question was can he make them a championship contender not a playoff contender. You know can he get them to the 2nd round like Harden did most of the time.
lol...so if thats the question I guess there is more debate, but if the question is "can he carry his own team" it's yes.
He had help on the dig from House and its one freakin play. Wiggins is a carrer 46% with 36% on 3's you are using a guys numbers who has only played about 25 games so thats what I mean in a short sample size. Tate has and will never be the focule point of an offense so how am I wrong. As for defense. https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/w...-wiggins-posting-elite-defensive-stats-season Tate avg 27 minutes as opposed to 32 and Wiggins guards the better scorer than Tate and still has about the same DRTG its only about .5 difference Wiggins is efg is 53 and Tates is 58 because he mostly shoots layups and does not shoot as often he should have a much higher efg. And then there is this. Among players with at least 2 isolation attempts per game and at least 65% of available games played, Andrew Wiggins leads all players with 1.41 PPP (points per possession.) He’s shooting 67.8 eFG% in that situation. Kyrie Irving (1.36 PPP), Kevin Durant (1.27 PPP), DeMar DeRozan (1.26 PPP) and James Harden (1.22 PPP) round out the rest of the top 5. Thing about Harden is his PPP for HOU and BKN is separated. His BKN ranks 5th while his HOU ranks 13th. On the opposite end of the spectrum, Russell Westbrook comes in dead last with 0.65 PPP. He’s shooting 34.8 eFG%. Jayson Tatum (0.75 PPP), Devin Booker (0.78 PPP), Luka Doncic (0.85 PPP) and Julius Randle (0.86 PPP) round the remaining bottom 4. Kyrie Irving leads all players in scoring frequency during an isolation attempt where he produces at least one point 63.1% of the time while Tatum is dead last at 31.6% of the time. So yeah I think Wiggins is the better player, take that for data.
Did you even follow the warriors this year? Steph needs Draymond to be successful. They were awful to start the season cuz Draymond was out of the lineup. Steph and the whole team has been playing much better since Draymond came back and they are winning more. Not only is he their best defender but he's bball IQ and passing sets up the entire offense. So yes he has HOF impact. He's a former DPOY. He will probably be in the Hall of Fame.
