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Was Christian Wood playing at a superstar level before injury?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by durvasa, Feb 5, 2021.

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Before injury, would you say Christian Wood was playing at a superstar level?

  1. Yes

    57 vote(s)
    30.5%

  2. No

    130 vote(s)
    69.5%
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  1. durvasa

    durvasa Member

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    Who cares about Sabonis. You can even leave out Giannis, who’s having a down year for him.

    You are claiming Wood was playing at the same level as the two leading MVP candidates Jokic and Embiid this year, and you were trying to pull me into a debate over it. I elected not to engage with you on that debate, knowing full well that arguing with you on such a topic is really not worth it.

    You threw out the contrarian accusation, and when I ask you to specify what I was being contrarian about you can’t even answer that.

    I can safely guarantee that most people here or in the media would not agree with you that Wood was playing at the same level as Jokic and Embiid. Not even your friends at ESPN who created that infographic you’re so excited about. If that’s the thing you think I was being contrarian about (leaving aside you can’t even quote me on it), then you’re just using that word as empty attack line.
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Superstars can not only make plays for themselves but are so good that they can flex a defense which creates opportunities for others. Wood is a star, but he doesn't even get the third most touches on a borderline playoff team.

    That is why Curry is a superstar and Thompson isn't. That is why Kawhi is a superstar and PG13 isn't.
     
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  3. D-rock

    D-rock Member

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    LOL

    You escalated this whole discussion because you refused to acknowledge the validity of the ESPN graphic which is being touted all over the media.

    Yes, Wood is playing at similar level as those 4 elite bigs, Sabonis is included much to your chagrin because he is also playing at same level and he is not what you consider "superstar" "level".

    I put them in quotes for you because I know you like that.

    And your excuse for Giannis is so like you durv.

    Continue being your contrarian self.
     
    #143 D-rock, Feb 6, 2021
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    Lol.... The ESPN graphic is nothing....you can slide the stats up or down and get whatever result you want .... it’s just click bait.
     
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    D-rock Member

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    If the name fits, wear it.

    His actions bear it out, running away from a discussion to create another thread and manipulating said thread to produce his desired results.

    His argument was with me but he needed a mob to back him up.
     
    #145 D-rock, Feb 6, 2021
  6. durvasa

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    Right and obviously he’s not at the level of those other players. But he was playing like he could make the all-star team this year, which was fantastic for us. For some folks here, just stating that isn’t good enough.
     
    #146 durvasa, Feb 6, 2021
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    D-rock Member

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    LOL

    Are you flip flopping now durv?

    I see you Ted Cruz.
     
    #147 D-rock, Feb 6, 2021
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    its only been 130 games played for Christian Wood so far and most of that coming in the last 1.5 years. Context is vital in keeping these discussions relative. It doesnt seem to be a fluke.
     
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  9. durvasa

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    LOL at “acknowledge the validity of the ESPN graphic”. What does that even mean? The infographic says what it says. It doesn’t say every player was playing as well as every other player. How many times do others have to mock you for you to grasp this? Sabonis hasn’t been playing as well as Embiid and Jokic either, or do you want to argue otherwise on that as well?

    Ah, now it’s similar level. Just a little while ago it was at the same level or better. Good idea, “similar” gives you some more wiggle room.
     
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    Are you throwing out more baseless accusation with nothing to back it up?

    I see you Donald.
     
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    Same level, similar level, these are synonyms.

    You just love to parse words to create a discussion point that is trite.

    20 and 10 has been the bench mark for elite bigs since the dawn of the NBA.

    Stop making it out that the metrics we are discussing were pulled out of thin air.

    I'm shocked you are taking such a hostile stance toward your beloved media.

    WOW
     
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    I laughed!

    This one was funny, kudos.
     
    #152 D-rock, Feb 6, 2021
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    Has Sabonis played at the same level as Jokic this year? Yes nor no.
     
    #153 durvasa, Feb 6, 2021
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    He has produced at least 20 points, 10 rebounds at 55% FG.

    So yes, same level.

    But Jokic is the better player and having a MVP type season, no one is disputing that.
     
    #154 D-rock, Feb 6, 2021
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    OK, so let’s stick to production this season, since that’s thing where there is potential dispute.

    Has Sabonis been producing as much for his team as Jokic has been producing for his team this year?
     
    #155 durvasa, Feb 6, 2021
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    no, he wasn’t

    he was closer to Nikola Vucevic level than superstar level
     
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    Why do you even bother, He's going to say 20 and 10 and 55%. That's all it matters in his head, because ESPN graphic said so. If doesn't matter what the roles of the players are, doesn't matter what other stats are, nothing else matters. We are all idiots except for him
     
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    Sabonis is averaging at least 20 points, 10 rebounds at 55% FG. Do you dispute this?

    That Sabonis, like Wood, is not 1st option for his team and is still performing at this level is a positive instead of a negative.
     
    #158 D-rock, Feb 6, 2021
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    "Superstar" is Durv's reason to discredit and belittle Wood's achievements.

    No one has said Wood is a superstar.

    Durv brings up this word over and over again to distract from the point I initially made that Wood should be the 1st option on Rockets offense due to his efficiency and current production.

    All this other stuff is QAnon style sleight of hand and rabble rousing.
     
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  20. dmoneybangbang

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    If a big isn’t an elite defensive force, it’s hard to be a “superstar”.
     
    #160 dmoneybangbang, Feb 6, 2021
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